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<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Bob,
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I must
apologize to you. I remember the last scathing you took. I thought it was a bit
unfair. If I had realized it was you I would have kept my mouth shut. It's
just that I am tired of some of the persons here who act as if they have all of
the answers yet all they provide are criticism with veiled
hints.
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Heck I
am not even the Ernie to whom this thread was even initially directed toward,
but the other Ernie is working hard at his system and tossed a little bit of it
out there for some comment and he was criticized.
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I have
all but stopped posting here because even when I have made dead accurate
forecasts I have been belittled. Who needs it.
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Anyway
I am sincerely sorry for responding to your post the way that I did. One of
those wrong place at the right time kinda things.
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<FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Bobh
[mailto:BHEISLER@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 7:38
PMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [RT]
Ernie's System
I should also add that I was not criticizing
either. And I have attempted to share ideas on both methods and the
trading of them on this forum and others. However since I don't use
squiggly lines or try to predict what the market is going to do my ideas are
generally pooh pooh'd on the premise that you can't trade using just price or
without predicting.
Or they discovered or knew that I offered a
service which then branded me as being one step above a child molester and the
ideas were then discredited on that premise. Part of a New Year's
resolution was to discontinue offering any kind of services so I'm not in
violation of any forum protocols here.
Trading for me has been a 3 step process -
Learn to see the trades.....Take the trades....Manage the trades, and each
step is progressively harder and much less cerebral. It's also been my
experience that the first step is by far the easiest since markets only have
two modes - trend and congestion, and within a trend there can be congestion
periods which are just continuation patterns. I have little
interest in congestion periods but absolutely love and thrive on trending
periods (like today on the indexes). But getting from step 1 to being
proficient at step 3 is one heck of a journey.
Bob
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Hill,
Ernie
To: <A
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:'realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'">'realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 6:56
PM
Subject: RE: [RT] Ernie's System
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Perhaps if those of you who claim that making money in the markets is
so SIMPLE would merely enlighten those who are trying to "re-invent" the
wheel, as opposed to offering only criticism, then maybe you would have the
answer to your own question.
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<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>One who has no wheel must either walk or make his
own.
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<FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Bobh
[mailto:BHEISLER@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 5:59
PMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [RT]
Ernie's System
That sounds good but the markets have been
moving the same way since there have been markets. If you look
at "bare" charts from 50+ years ago (any market) and
compare them to recent charts you couldn't tell them
apart. The only thing that changes is volatility/liquidity.
What never seems to change though
is the endless quest to make the simple complicated, along
with the failure to recognize the distinction between methods
& trading them.
B
----- Original Message -----
From: "RB" <<A
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To: <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT face=Verdana
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Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:17
PM
Subject: Re: [RT] Ernie's
System
<FONT
face=Verdana size=2>> Because it is what keeps things moving and
hopefully better. The wheel> will hopefully always get better
and be reinvented over and over. I am so> glad they are now
rubber. Maybe next will be, never go flat and almost last>
forever. Or another material that is softer but better than
rubber? The> flintstones are funny to watch but those
stone wheels probably don't ride to> good.> > -----
Original Message -----> From: "ira" <<A
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size=2>mr.ira@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<FONT face=Verdana
size=2>>> To: <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT face=Verdana
size=2>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<FONT face=Verdana
size=2>>> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 10:24 PM>
Subject: Re: [RT] Ernie's System> > > > why does
everyone want to reinvent the wheel?> > ----- Original Message
-----> > From: "John Cappello" <<A
href="mailto:jvc689@xxxxxxx";><FONT face=Verdana
size=2>jvc689@xxxxxxx>>
> To: <<FONT
face=Verdana size=2>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<FONT
face=Verdana size=2>>> > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 11:42
AM> > Subject: [RT] Ernie's System> >>
>> > > Dear Ernie,> > >> > > I
never consider these "show-offs" but rather sharing successes and>
> > or failures. I hope it walks forward for you. I can not tell you
the> > > number of times I have had faulty walk
forwards.> > >> > > I once thought that I had
the ultimate. Backtested and trained on 4> > > years of back
data where it was quite profitable...and a flop in the> > >
walk forward...even the logic still seems sound.> > >>
> > I have recently taken a different approach and trained a system
on 3> > > years back data and then successfully saw it
perform on the year> > > prior with success. Now it is
walking forward and we shall see.> > >> > > Such
are the vagaries of system development especially with the
S&P.> > >> > > John> >
>> > >> > >> > >
------------------ Reply Separator --------------------> > >
Originally From: Ernie Bonugli <<A
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> > Subject: Re: [RT] I-Master Mechanical Trading System 2002
S&P 500> > > Date: 01/05/2003 12:45pm> >
>> > >> > > list,> > >>
> > Let me show off the private system that I am working on? I
could not> > > resist. Time will tell whether the logic its
may be curve> > > fitted to the data?!> >
>> > >> > > Regards,> > >
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