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I believe most understand what you are 
saying.  Most know in anything, without reinventing there is no 
future.  No body can honestly say that they use and trade exactly what they 
tried or learned the first time they ever got interested in trading.  We 
change and markets change.  If we don't, we might as well quit.   
Anyone that claims making money in the markets is simple, probably has never and 
never will make money in the markets.
 
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  Hill, 
  Ernie 
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="mailto:'realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'">'realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx' 
  
  Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 4:56 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [RT] Ernie's System
  
  <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>Perhaps if those of you who claim that making money in the markets is 
  so SIMPLE would merely enlighten those who are trying to "re-invent" the 
  wheel, as opposed to offering only criticism, then maybe you would have the 
  answer to your own question.
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  One 
  who has no wheel must either walk or make his own.
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  <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
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    <FONT 
    face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Bobh 
    [mailto:BHEISLER@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 5:59 
    PMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [RT] 
    Ernie's System
    That sounds good but the markets have been 
    moving the same way since there have been markets.  If you look 
    at "bare" charts from 50+ years ago (any market) and compare them 
    to recent charts you couldn't tell them apart.  The only 
    thing that changes is volatility/liquidity.  
     
    What never seems to change though 
    is the endless quest to make the simple complicated, along 
    with the failure to recognize the distinction between methods 
    & trading them.
     
    B
     
     
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "RB" <<A 
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    To: <<A 
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    Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:17 
    PM
    Subject: Re: [RT] Ernie's 
    System
    <FONT 
    face=Verdana size=2>> Because it is what keeps things moving and 
    hopefully better.  The wheel> will hopefully always get better 
    and be reinvented over and over.  I am so> glad they are now 
    rubber.  Maybe next will be, never go flat and almost last> 
    forever.  Or another material that is softer but better than 
    rubber?   The> flintstones are funny to watch but those 
    stone wheels probably don't ride to> good.> > ----- 
    Original Message -----> From: "ira" <<A 
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    size=2>mr.ira@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> 
    To: <<FONT 
    face=Verdana size=2>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<FONT face=Verdana 
    size=2>>> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 10:24 PM> Subject: 
    Re: [RT] Ernie's System> > > > why does everyone 
    want to reinvent the wheel?> > ----- Original Message 
    -----> > From: "John Cappello" <<A 
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    size=2>jvc689@xxxxxxx>> > 
    To: <<FONT 
    face=Verdana size=2>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<FONT face=Verdana 
    size=2>>> > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 11:42 AM> 
    > Subject: [RT] Ernie's System> >> >> > 
    > Dear Ernie,> > >> > > I never consider these 
    "show-offs" but rather sharing successes and> > > or failures. 
    I hope it walks forward for you. I can not tell you the> > > 
    number of times I have had faulty walk forwards.> > >> 
    > > I once thought that I had the ultimate. Backtested and trained on 
    4> > > years of back data where it was quite profitable...and a 
    flop in the> > > walk forward...even the logic still seems 
    sound.> > >> > > I have recently taken a different 
    approach and trained a system on 3> > > years back data and 
    then successfully saw it perform on the year> > > prior with 
    success. Now it is walking forward and we shall see.> > 
    >> > > Such are the vagaries of system development 
    especially with the S&P.> > >> > > 
    John> > >> > >> > >> > > 
    ------------------ Reply Separator --------------------> > > 
    Originally From: Ernie Bonugli <<A 
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    > > Subject: Re: [RT] I-Master Mechanical Trading System 2002 S&P 
    500> > > Date: 01/05/2003 12:45pm> > >> 
    > >> > > list,> > >> > > Let me 
    show off the private system that I am working on?  I could not> 
    > > resist. Time will tell whether the logic its may be curve> 
    > > fitted to the data?!> > >> > >> 
    > > Regards,> > > Ernie> > > <A 
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