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Re: [RT] Re: [wheelsinthesky] Re: S&P Square



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Vix IS  a good tool for intermediate timing
but is very poor in performance for SHORT  term 
moves
Ben
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  Kent 
  Rollins 
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  Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 9:26 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [RT] Re: [wheelsinthesky] 
  Re: S&P Square
  
  I don't think a significant move down can begin with the 
  peak we built on the VIX last week.
   
  Kent
   
   
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  Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 8:48 PM
  Subject: [RT] Re: [wheelsinthesky] Re: S&P Square
  
  Be  careful  on this up train north
  I suspect that  it  may not take you higher 
  than  Fri. high,,
  and if it does,
  Take it as a gift to short,,
  moving to gold,, if you are not out,, use any strength  
  Monday to bail out
  Ben
  (comments welcome)
  nice week end
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    Morrison 
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    Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 8:20 
    PM
    Subject: Re: [wheelsinthesky] Re: 
    S&P Square
    
    Lorin,
     
    My analysis of this chart goes like this:
    Top at 1553, Second top at about 1525
    Low at 8.56% down from 1553 = 1420 (Ideal is 
    8.66%)
    Low at 15.66% down from 1553 = 1310 (Ideal is 
    16.66%)
    Low at 19.5% down from 1553 = 1250 (Ideal is 
    25%)
    Double Low at 29.8% down from 1553 = 1090 (Ideal is 33.33% 
    or 2 x 16.66%)
    Low at 39.5% down from 1553 = 940 (Ideal is 43.33% or 5 x 
    8.66%)
    Low at 50% down from 1553 = 776 (Ideal is 50%, which was 
    met perfectly)
     
    Notice where I use the numbers 1, 2, and 5... just like 
    the # of planes on the cover. :))
     
    Time wise I suppose there is a similar formula, but I have 
    not been able to figure it out.
    I am reading Bradley Cowan's 4D Market books right now, so 
    I hope to learn what I'm missing here!!!
    You can really help me out here and I am very serious 
    about this. Major TIA!!!
     
    So, using my inter-market analysis I determined that even 
    though SP500 has hit 50%
    the Dow has not.  So there must be MORE downward 
    thrust coming.  This is where I
    agree with Haytham and Ben that we are not 
    done.
     
    There is probably a short term upward trend for a while... 
    is this the ride you are on?
     
    Joe
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      Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 
      7:53 PM
      Subject: Re: [wheelsinthesky] Re: 
      S&P Square
      
      Lorin,
       
      I don't have a data provider. I just use 
      livecharts.  Here is the S&P weekly chart from 
      livecharts...
      H&S is Head and Shoulder pattern I assume...  I 
      am not sure if my chart shows what you are looking for.
       
      I've got to be honest with you on this one... it looks 
      like its going to accelerate thru the floor any moment.
      I'd be scared to be long this market. :))
       
      Joe
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        Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 
        6:26 PM
        Subject: [wheelsinthesky] Re: 
        S&P Square
        Joe, If you are serious in your question; 
        then design a long term weekly chart of the H&S pattern in the 
        S&P, post it and we will take a look at the long term 
        perspective first as Gann suggested. After you post it I will 
        give you my thoughts on it. Lorin--- In <A 
        href="mailto:wheelsinthesky@x";>wheelsinthesky@x..., "Joe Morrison" 
        <morrisonjv@x...> wrote:> 
        Lorin,> > Cool! That looks a lot like BC's PTV... but how 
        do we make money from knowing last Thurs was Square???> I see 
        you could have been a buyer at that price on that day, nice 
        entry.  But how do I exit?  Profit = proper exit.> 
        (Stop was probably at Aug 5th? low and once it moved up... probably 
        moved stop up to Thurs low for break even.)> So, sitting 
        pretty now... can't lose much if anything, but when to exit?> 
        > Joe>   ----- Original Message ----- 
        >   From: reikimstr@xxxx >   To: 
        wheelsinthesky@xxxx >   Sent: Saturday, September 07, 
        2002 3:55 PM>   Subject: [wheelsinthesky] S&P 
        Square> > > >   It took a while to 
        put this together - but I wanted to illustrate another example, or 
        confirmation that I had going into that low on Thursday.   
        I knew this would in all liklihood be there because this point in 
        space has been important before. > >   There is 
        a lot of information on the chart; and it may be hard to visualize 
        the rotation concept -- but it has everything to do with structure. 
        > >   It is all about structure, which is 
        defined by number, geometry, and astro.  We then use our tools, 
        from these perspectives, to determine the correct structure, at this 
        point in space, for this particular market. > 
        >   And never try to think in a linear or static manner 
        because the market you are trying to model is non-linear and 
        dynamic. > >   Enjoy, > 
        >   Lorin 
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