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Re: [RT] Bond Bubble?



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They can do exactly what the Japanese banks are doing now.  Borrow 
for nothing and invest in long term government bonds.  Forget about 
lending money.




--- In realtraders@xxxx, "tradewynne" <tradewynne@xxxx> wrote:
> > More debt for the banks, lower interest rates for their earnings, 
> they'll be looking for other sources just like the accountants 
were.  
> Did I mention more debt for the banks?  God, I sure hope there is a 
> collapse this year.  If we don't have one soon, when things finally 
> do break, it could be the Dark Ages for the Third Millenium.
> 
> I'm not sure where to file this one.
> 
> A) Great minds think alike?
> 
> B) Unlikely coincidences?
> 
> Kent, you sound EXACTLY like Robert Prechter (of all people).
> Don't get me wrong, I share the same fears.
> 
> BW
> 
> 
> 
> --- In realtraders@xxxx, "Kent Rollins" <kentr@xxxx> wrote:
> > That should keep the housing market/bubble going.  Insana had 
> Robert Kessler tonight.  A few years ago when he was on, he cited a 
> study that showed the market cap of Microsoft was worth all the 
farm 
> land in the mid-West.  "Unsustainable", he said.  Tonight he 
pointed 
> out that the 40 year high in bonds that we are now bumping up 
against 
> was at the time (early 60's) a 30 year low.  When you fill a glass 
up 
> with water, everything looks backwards.
> > 
> > More debt for the banks, lower interest rates for their earnings, 
> they'll be looking for other sources just like the accountants 
were.  
> Did I mention more debt for the banks?  God, I sure hope there is a 
> collapse this year.  If we don't have one soon, when things finally 
> do break, it could be the Dark Ages for the Third Millenium.
> > 
> > Kent
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: profitok 
> > To: realtraders@xxxx 
> > Cc: gannsghost@xxxx ; Dorothy Carter ; Vincent DONOVAN 
> > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 5:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: [RT] Bond Bubble?
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > Ultimate High   120-12016 circa
> > 3/2003  ,  120 for June contract,
> > and  between  10916 and   120   a few   round trips to 112 114   
> 116  118
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: Ray Raffurty 
> >   To: realtraders@xxxx ; gannsghost@xxxx 
> >   Cc: Dorothy Carter ; Vincent DONOVAN 
> >   Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 11:05 AM
> >   Subject: Re: [RT] Bond Bubble?
> > 
> > 
> >   Hi Ben,
> >    
> >   It is quite possible we will both be right, just on different 
> time frames.  I know you are a nimble trader with plenty enough 
savvy 
> to know when to hit the sell button (a nimble old fox {;-).  My 
> concern is for those who are less sophisticated and will get hit 
> again in the 401-k's.
> >    
> >   What is your up side target from 109?
> >    
> >   Good luck and good trading,
> >    
> >   Ray Raffurty
> >    
> >     ----- Original Message ----- 
> >     From: profitok 
> >     To: realtraders@xxxx ; gannsghost@xxxx 
> >     Cc: Dorothy Carter ; Vincent DONOVAN 
> >     Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 10:41 AM
> >     Subject: Fw: [RT] Bond Bubble?
> > 
> > 
> >     HelloRay
> >     I am your age too
> >     54
> >     I agree, However
> >     Will be a buyer at 109
> >     Ben
> >     ----- Original Message ----- 
> >     From: Ray Raffurty 
> >     To: realtraders@xxxx 
> >     Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 10:12 AM
> >     Subject: [RT] Bond Bubble?
> > 
> > 
> >     In my short 53 years on this planet, I have only learned one 
> thing for sure... What goes up must come down and if it goes 
> parabolic it comes down just as fast and furiously.  Remember the 
dot 
> com everyone HAD to own?  The great masses are, as usual, panicking 
> into bonds just as the economy begins to recover.  There may be 
some 
> more upside, but I wouldn't go un-hedged.  The chart says it all.
> >      
> >     Good luck and good trading,
> >      
> >     Ray Raffurty
> >      
> >      
> >      
> > 
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