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I only position trade
and maybe  regression gives the same results on a 5 min bar,, but do you get
stopped out fast enough  on a daily bar?
this,, keeps you in the trade when you are right,, and gets you out fast
when you are wrong
Ben
----- Original Message -----
From: "metatrader108" <metatrader108@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <gannsghost@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 1:50 PM
Subject: [gannsghost] Re: Jurik Indicators


> Do you give high ratings to Jurikstuff based on his own flattery self
> promotion or on your own objective study/comarison?
>
> When I compared it to the Linear Regression indicator which comes
> with TS, I didn't find much of a difference. The same least square
> formula. Jurik just spiced it with some weighting variable that
> doesn't produce much of a difference by the way. This sort of
> tweaking is easy to do if you know some easy language. It is also
> easy to turn it into oscillator or a system, just substruct 2 lines
> of the code.
>
> The only innovation I see is in repackaging plain math and reselling
> it under the rocket science label something that already built into
> TS. You just have to know how to access it.
>
> After I tested diff mechanical systems against each other, dual
> (separate sets for buy and sell) MACD showed superior results.
> It beated Jurik's stuff as well. Also you have to continusly optimise
> to keep this stuff working and another important thing you have to
> determine the optimum data length for optimization. It shouldn't be
> too long or short.
> That what realistically takes to trade mechanically - non mechanical
> realisation. It turns to be just another technical tool.
>
> Greg.
>
>
> --- In gannsghost@xxxx, "wdgann2002" <wdgann2002@xxxx> wrote:
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > I believe you can buy the indicators individually but you get a
> > discount if you buy several at once.  I have the excel dll's... I
> use
> > excel for everything... call me odd but I like it and with VBA can
> do
> > just about anything.
> >
> > Don't follow the beans.  I use the indicators as
> inputs/preprocessing
> > for in my proprietary signals so I don't have any pictures to show
> > you per se. But, with out a doubt for the same period JMA will give
> > you a MUCH smoother signal with much less lag than just about
> > everything but especially a simple or exponential average. VEL same
> > thing.. it is nice.  (oh BTW People are always sayiung "it is not
> > rocket science"  but in this case, it IS rocket science ....
> applied
> > to the markets of course.)
> >
> > I suggest you go here:
> >
> > http://www.mesasoftware.com/pub/index.html and get this:
> >
> > http://www.mesasoftware.com/pub/TRACKINGFILTERS.EXE
> >
> > (A word file in self extracting zip format)
> >
> > and read about the Kalman filter. It will give you a pretty good
> Idea
> > what kind of formuala you are buying in JMA.  If you don't want to
> > mess with programming your own indicator them by all means get JMA
> > and VEL... the price is right and you won't be disappointed. ;-)
> >
> > Rick-
> >
> >
> > --- In gannsghost@xxxx, steve3656@xxxx wrote:
> > > Rick
> > > Thanks for your timely response, it was very nice of you to take
> > the time to
> > > explain it all in detail. I have been to the jurik site, read the
> > manual and
> > > was overly impressed with the various indicators, the JMA looks
> > vastly
> > > superior and appears to be a step ahead of the mkt while
> > traditional MA tends
> > > to lag a bit.
> > > I will certainly check out the links you mentioned. I am not
> trying
> > to create
> > > a system, so jurik would be fine  for my purposes, I just need an
> > additional
> > > tool to confirm reversal points, that's why I got interested in
> > jurik. So are
> > > you saying that I don't necessarily need to purchase all of the
> > indicators,
> > > but that the JMA and VEL would be adequate? Are you using TS4 or
> > Prosuite
> > > 2000 with your indicators?
> > > I would appreciate if you could send me a chart on beans and
> cocoa
> > or cattle
> > > just to give me an idea of how they work.
> > > thanks again for your help
> > > Steve
>
>
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