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Re: [RT] John Murphy notes: the market isn't "cheap"



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Its a damn poor example of a head and shoulders. If you 
were defining shoulders for a computer test, this wouldn't cut it, else every up 
and down swing could be defined as a H&S. You gotta squint to see the 
shoulders.  
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  market isn't "cheap"
  
   
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    Simms 
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    Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 5:09 
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    Subject: RE: [RT] John Murphy notes: 
    the market isn't "cheap"
    
    WARNING, WARNING....John is getting pretty old and so are 
    histechniques.....backtesting Head and Shoulders patterns shows 
    no better than a 50%prediction of significant, tradeablebottom or 
    top.
     
    Bulkowski's book 
    indicates that the failure rate is only 
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    Many fantastic "reversal" rallies have emanated from the 
    neckline....GOTTA DO YOUR HOMEWORK, John....and less appearances 
    !> -----Original Message-----> From: Gary Funck 
    [mailto:gary@xxxxxxxxxxxx]> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 8:02 
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    Com> Subject: [RT] John Murphy notes: the market isn't 
    "cheap">>>>> <A 
    href="http://www.murphymorris.com/affiliate/market_watch.html";>http://www.murphymorris.com/affiliate/market_watch.html>> 
    John Murphy's Market Watch>> by Mr. John Murphy, President of 
    MURPHYMORRIS.COM>> Sat, July 13, 2002 - HEAD AND SHOULDERS 
    TOP?> WHAT IS IT?... Quoting from the Glossary in my book 
    Technical> Analysis of the> Financial Markets: "A head and 
    shoulders top is the best known of> the reversal> patterns. At 
    a market top, three prominent peaks are formed with> the 
    middle> peak (or head) slightly higher than the other two 
    peaks> (shoulders). When the> trendline (neckline) connecting 
    the two intervening troughs is broken, the> pattern is complete." 
    While most major averages show a similar> pattern, we're> 
    using the NYSE Composite Index for illustration purposes because> we 
    believe it> probably gives the best overall measure of the state of 
    the> "market". There's> no question that the chart has the 
    look of a "head and shoulders"> top. The two> "shoulders" were 
    formed during 1998 and 2002. The "head" formed> during 2000.> 
    The "neckline" is drawn under the 1998-2001 reaction lows. As of 
    Friday's> close, the neckline is already been pierced on the 
    downside, but> not by much.> There are two other support 
    levels that bear watching. The first is the> intra-day low hit last 
    fall (which is at 494). The second (and> more important)> is 
    the late 1998 low at 463. Friday's close was only a shade below last> 
    September's low, but not by enough to call this a clear breakdown> -- 
    at least> not yet. Regarding the breaking of the "neckline", there's 
    also a> 3% rule which> comes into play at major chart points. 
    That means that the> neckline needs to be> broken by at least 
    3% before we can call it a "major" breakdown.> We may get> 
    there (about 485), but we're not there yet. Unless the market> 
    attempts a rally> soon, however, a breakdown could be imminent, which 
    could carry the market> lower into the September/October 
    period.> [...]> THE MARKET ISN'T CHEAP... The purpose of 
    looking at the long-term> charts isn't> to scare anyone. Our 
    main goal is to show that this market isn't cheap. In> fact, it's 
    still historically very high. We've expressed the view> several 
    times> before that we believe the twenty-year bull cycle has ended. 
    That> means the> current bear market could last longer -- and 
    fall much further --> than most> people realize. We don't know 
    how low it can go. It's the direction that> matters most -- not the 
    actual numbers. The "head and shoulders"> tops shown in> the 
    preceding charts is another warning that things could still get a 
    lot> worse. As the message is finally getting across to the 
    public> that this bear> market is indeed different from those 
    in the recent past, mutual fund> redemptions are starting. Imagine 
    what could happen when the> public finally> decides to start 
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