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[RT] Nigerian Scams



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These guys want your bank account numbers so they can withdraw $$ 
from them. They are rather talented and best ignored.

R




--- In realtraders@xxxx, "ira" <irat@xxxx> wrote:
> It seems that they caught everyone on this list with the Nigeria 
million dollar swindle.  
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Jeffrey Harteam 
>   To: realtraders@xxxx 
>   Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 8:39 PM
>   Subject: RE: [RT] Off Topic (Tracking e-mail sources)
> 
> 
>   Norman:
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>   The best thing to do is to just ignore these mails. They are 
definitely butch of crooks.  I am sure you saw this was being 
televised on "60-Minutes" few years ago.  I also happen to receive 
just once this mail from Nigeria.  I just deleted it.  Don't even 
think of leaving the US just for this kind of BS.  "60-Minutes" 
reported that people did what they ask for, i.e. going abroad and 
meet them and ended up loosing their lives.  My impression:  People 
kill for money in Nigeria. Simple as that!  Regarding the IP address 
you are inquiring.  Bill has provided a very handy tool in tracking 
down the source of the spammer. Not necessarily you will be able to 
get the name & address of this person.  But the "engine" is good for 
tracking down his/her IP provider(s).  That should do to make lives 
harder for the spammers if YOUR ISP, most are willing, is willing to 
block this guy.  I have got a lot of 'craps' from Taiwan and I ran 
his IP address on it, this time the "engine" provided his name, 
address of the company and email address.  Report to YOUR IPS with 
all these info and they will block.  Repeat the same procedure if 
they change ISP.  This is the way to fight spammers.  On 
the "engine" page, you see a few icons below, one is 
called "spamcop", I used this one as well for reporting.  Being in 
the US, I would tend to think they will be more responsive to your 
reporting.  Hope this helps. 
> 
>    
> 
>   Have a good one
> 
>   Jeff Harteam
> 
>   Hong Kong
> 
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>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Norman Winski [mailto:nwinski@x...]
>   Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 11:16 AM
>   To: realtraders@xxxx
>   Subject: Re: [RT] Off Topic (Tracking e-mail sources)
> 
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>   Bill,
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>    Thanks for the internet help. I noticed that on the scam spam, 
it may say it came from "mindspring" but when you put the address 
numbers in the search engine you provided, the answer can be totally 
different.  Have you gotten the one about the $35 million frozen in 
an account in Nigeria and they want you to be their partner to help 
get the money to the US? 
> 
>   I got three different ones like this in the past three weeks. 
One scam artists said his boss had died with $25 mil. frozen and he 
wanted me to show up and say I was a relative. These people are 
based in Nigeria. What are the chances I would even remotely look 
like someone who could possibly be related to this guy? More likely, 
it's a scam to kidnap for ransom stupid US citizens. One scamster 
wanted me to fly to The Netherlands to meet his lawyer - courier. 
When I said I wasn't leaving the US, he could wire the money, he 
lost interest. I offered to manage a small amount for him as a 
trial, but he hasn't gotten back to me. Gee, I  wonder why?  
> 
>    
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>   Cheers,
> 
>   Norman
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>    ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> 
>   From: wavemechanic 
> 
>   To: realtraders@xxxx 
> 
>   Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 9:49 PM
> 
>   Subject: Re: [RT] Off Topic (Tracking e-mail sources)
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>   Norm:
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>   There is some information under Spam Primer at the bottom of the 
page.  Basically, one has to get the ISP address (format is 
xxx.yyy.zzz.qqq, but not always in groups of 3).  You will find them 
by clicking on the header of the message and then 
FILE|PROPERTIES\DETAIL.  Then one puts those numbers into the IP 
Whois box and up pops the information about the ISP.  One wants the 
originating ISP, but when in doubt I checkout all of the ISP 
addresses.  Then send the complaint either to abuse@xxxx/net (send 
to all if not sure which is originating), or what I do is send 
everything to ISP.com/net@xxxx  abuse.net is a spam fighting outfit 
that will forward the information to the proper party.  A copy 
should also be sent to the FTC.  The message that is forwarded by 
you is the one that you receive plus a copy of the full Detail page 
from the property box.  I find that the majority come from China, 
Hong Kong, Malaysia, and eastern Europe, and perhaps 3/4 of the ISPs 
do nothing, but some are very aggressive.  You can get more 
information from the anti-spam webpages, including: 
http://www.abuse.net/ and http://www.abuse.net/.
> 
>    
> 
>   Bill  
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> 
>   From: Norman Winski 
> 
>   To: realtraders@xxxx 
> 
>   Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 5:29 PM
> 
>   Subject: Re: [RT] Off Topic (Tracking e-mail sources)
> 
>    
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>   Bill,
> 
>    
> 
>      Could you please further explain your internet lingo below?  
Which are the different fields etc? Perhaps you could explain how to 
read those numbers? 
> 
>    
> 
>   Thanks,
> 
>   Norman
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> 
>   From: wavemechanic 
> 
>   To: realtraders@xxxx 
> 
>   Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 1:39 PM
> 
>   Subject: Re: [RT] Off Topic (Tracking e-mail sources)
> 
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> 
>   Adam:
> 
>    
> 
>   Here is a freebie that works quite well.  Just pick up the 4 
field number from the property listing for the address field, plug 
it in and it will tell all:
> 
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>   http://combat.uxn.com/
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>    
> 
>   Bill
> 
>    
> 
>   --- Original Message ----- 
> 
> 
>   From: Adam Hefner 
> 
>   To: realtraders@xxxx 
> 
>   Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 10:14 AM
> 
>   Subject: [RT] Off Topic (Tracking e-mail sources)
> 
>    
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>   Is there a way to track the source of e-mails? I believe I may 
be targeted by an individual sending me a virus and inserting a 
bogus return address and / or sender.
> 
>   This has happened many times and the last two return address is 
from "clydelee <clydelee@xxxx>" and "ted <ted@xxxx>" but many have 
been non deliverable addresses. I have the complete tracking details 
of some of these attacks, but am unsure how to read them.
> 
>       Any help will be appreciated,
> 
>           Adam
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