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RE: [RT] What happened to the Hurst cycle?



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But 
Clyde, your own web pages show that as you change your cycle length from 150 to 
160 to 170
it 
completely changes your inflexion point, and therefore your ability to define 
when prices are 
way 
out of balance.  Even just that small change from 150 to 170 completely 
changed your
future 
projected path of prices.  So I don't understand how you can say it doesn't 
matter whether
the 
cycle is a bit late or early?  Logic says that if you could be that 
inaccurate and still make money, 
then 
something isn't quite right.  
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I 
believe the crux of the problem is EXACTLY that cycles expand and contract, and 
sometimes in a
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size=2>chaotic manner...that's why markets are so hard and crazy sometimes. Its 
what right and left translation
of 
cycles are all about.  We need a technique that can monitor the dominant 
cycles at any one point in 
time 
and then plot the curve as they change.  That way you can see how the 
cycles expand and contract.
This 
is basically what John Ehlers work does.  Not entirely successfully mind 
you..so don't come attacking that.
Only 
constructive comments please.
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<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
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  <FONT 
  face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Clyde Lee 
  [mailto:clydelee@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, 4 July 2002 11:45 
  AMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [RT] What 
  happened to the Hurst cycle?
  Whether the cycle that is projected is early a 
  bit or late a bit with respect
  the real INFLECTION of the Centered Moving 
  Average is not all that
  important.
   
  What Hurst was trying to demonstrate and what I 
  hope we are beginning
  to see a bit of is that even though the 
  projections may be off a bit in time
  or price, when prices move significantly outside 
  the projected channels
  then that is a VERY LOW RISK point at which 
  trading should take place.
   
  Later I will post some stuff on the DX and 
  indicate just how we can improve
  our estimates of where the next inflection point 
  will be by comparing the
  rate of change of the projection to rate of 
  change of the CMAs at prior
  inflections.  Of course we will have to wait 
  a couple of weeks to see
  if that is correct BUT if it is then we certainly 
  should be buying dollars.
   
  REMEMBER, we are not trying to project prices -- 
  God forbid as that has
  been shown to be a death trap -- but are trying 
  to project areas in which
  prices move SO FAR OUT of the "norm" that 
  exceptional trading 
  opportunities exist.
   
  Clyde
   
   
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    Subject: Re: [RT] What happened to the 
    Hurst cycle?
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    FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Clyde,Your work is certainly noteworthy and 
    deserves a lot of respect. I wish I had 1/10th the knowledge you 
    have.But from my limited experience and knowledge of cycles, how 
    would such a system, or any cycle system for that matter, take into 
    consideration that cycles expand and contract from both the smaller and 
    larger cycles that surround the cyclical time frame in question.It 
    is from this phenomena that I have always attributed to projected cycle 
    points being late or early. As many have posted before on RT, and 
    applies to all cycle work I would imagine, since I've seen the best cycle 
    work from individuals on this list and others be wrong at times (or should 
    we say late or early more appropriately). As soon as a point is late or 
    early, all ask "what happend?" Don't you hate that?I know I 
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