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Re: [RT] PATSYSTEMS PROBLEM



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I have tried to ping their IP connection and 
have got a timeout,
I have also tried a trace route with a 15 second 
timeout and got
 1   50   60   
40  213.121.145.9    
imsnet-cl10-hg40-bletchley.mdip.bt.net 2   40   
60   50  192.168.255.61 3   60   
60   60  172.16.93.30 4   50   
50   50  213.120.62.149 5   50   
50   50  62.6.206.97 6   40   
50   50  62.6.197.133     
core1-pos4-2.bletchley.ukcore.bt.net 7   60   
50   60  62.6.196.245     
core1-pos13-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.net 8   60   
60   50  194.74.65.113    
core1-pos7-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net 9   60   
50   50  195.66.224.47    
linx-gw1.uk.netscalibur.net10   60   60  190  
195.157.7.98     
512.cr11.th.rtr.uk.netscalibur.net11   60   
60   50  194.112.32.10    
ns1.dircon.co.uk
 
Have they given you the correct IP address?
                                                         

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: 
  <A title=salam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="mailto:salam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ASM 
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 10:14 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [RT] PATSYSTEMS 
PROBLEM
  
  
  <FONT face=Verdana color=black 
  size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana">David
  <FONT face=Verdana color=black 
  size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana"> 
  <FONT face=Verdana color=black 
  size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana">The 
  Refco Server I am trying to connect to is 199.66.10.17.<SPAN 
  style="mso-spacerun: yes">  
  <FONT face=Verdana color=black 
  size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana"> 
  <FONT face=Verdana color=black 
  size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana">Grateful
  <FONT face=Verdana color=black 
  size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana"> 
  <FONT face=Verdana color=black 
  size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana">ASM
  <FONT face=Verdana color=#993366 
  size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana"> 
  <FONT face=Arial color=#993366 
  size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"> 
  <FONT face=Tahoma color=black 
  size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original 
  Message-----From: David 
  Jennings [mailto:davidjennings@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<SPAN 
  style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent: 03 July 2002 20:36<SPAN 
  style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To: <A 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<SPAN 
  style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: Re: [RT] PATSYSTEMS 
  PROBLEM
  <SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> 
  <FONT face=Arial color=black 
  size=2>I had 
  all sorts of problems trying to get PatSystems to work(not with Refco). In the 
  end I purchased another hard drive and rebuilt the system. What is the IP 
  address of the server you are trying to connect with? I'll try to connect from 
  here.<SPAN 
  style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-color-alt: windowtext">
  <DIV 
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  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original 
  Message ----- <SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-color-alt: windowtext">
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  style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 40.7pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 5.0pt"><FONT 
  face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
  From:<FONT face=Arial 
  color=black size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A 
  title=salam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="mailto:salam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ASM <FONT 
  face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-color-alt: windowtext">
  
  <P class=MsoNormal 
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  face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:<FONT 
  face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A 
  title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  <SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-color-alt: windowtext">
  <P class=MsoNormal 
  style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 40.7pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 5.0pt"><FONT 
  face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:<FONT 
  face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Wednesday, July 03, 
  2002 8:23 PM<SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-color-alt: windowtext">
  <P class=MsoNormal 
  style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 40.7pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 5.0pt"><FONT 
  face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:<FONT 
  face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> RE: [RT] PATSYSTEMS 
  PROBLEM<SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-color-alt: windowtext">
  <P class=MsoNormal 
  style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 40.7pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 5.0pt"><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"> <FONT 
  face="Times New Roman" color=black><SPAN 
  style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-color-alt: windowtext">
  <P class=MsoNormal 
  style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 40.7pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 5.0pt"><SPAN 
  class=EmailStyle21><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt">Ira,
  <P class=MsoNormal 
  style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 40.7pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 5.0pt"><SPAN 
  class=EmailStyle21><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt"> 
  <P class=MsoNormal 
  style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 40.7pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 5.0pt"><SPAN 
  class=EmailStyle21><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt">Thanks 
  for your reply.  The problem is 
  even earlier than that.  I 
  basically cannot connect to the Refco servers.<SPAN 
  style="mso-spacerun: yes">  I cannot be sure that the connection 
  to the Refco servers is only a temporary problem.<SPAN 
  style="mso-spacerun: yes">  But this inability to connect has 
  persisted for two days.   
  Whatever the case, this can’t be very reliable.<SPAN 
  style="mso-spacerun: yes">  Obviously something has to give soon. 
  
  <P class=MsoNormal 
  style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 40.7pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 5.0pt"><SPAN 
  class=EmailStyle21><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt"> 
  <P class=MsoNormal 
  style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 40.7pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 5.0pt"><SPAN 
  class=EmailStyle21><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt">Thanks. 
  
  <P class=MsoNormal 
  style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 40.7pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 5.0pt"><SPAN 
  class=EmailStyle21><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt"> 
  <P class=MsoNormal 
  style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 40.7pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 5.0pt"><SPAN 
  class=EmailStyle21><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt">ASM
  <P class=MsoNormal 
  style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 40.7pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 5.0pt"><SPAN 
  class=EmailStyle21><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt"> 
  <P class=MsoNormal 
  style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 40.7pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 5.0pt"><SPAN 
  class=EmailStyle21><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt">Oops 
  apologise for the mega-enormous font size on my last email…musta gotten 
  carried away.
  <P class=MsoNormal 
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  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt"> 
  <P class=MsoNormal 
  style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 40.7pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 5.0pt"><SPAN 
  class=EmailStyle21><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt"> 
  <P class=MsoNormal 
  style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 40.7pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 5.0pt"><SPAN 
  class=EmailStyle21><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"> 
  <DIV 
  style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 5pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none">
  <P class=MsoNormal 
  style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 76.7pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 5.0pt"><FONT 
  face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original 
  Message-----From: Ira Tunik 
  [mailto:irat@xxxxxxxxx]Sent: 
  03 July 2002 18:44To: 
  realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<SPAN 
  style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: Re: [RT] PATSYSTEMS 
  PROBLEM<SPAN 
  style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext">
  <P class=MsoNormal 
  style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 76.7pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 5.0pt"><FONT 
  face=Verdana color=black size=3><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"> <FONT 
  color=black><SPAN 
  style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext">
  <P class=MsoNormal 
  style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 76.7pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 5.0pt"><FONT 
  face=Verdana color=black size=3>If 
  there is anything in your setup that blocks Java and you will be unable to use 
  the PATS system.  with all the mascinations that MSFT is going through to 
  void Java, one of your programs might be the cause.  that is where I 
  would look first.  EI 5.5 should be OK.  I believe that it was IE 
  6.0 that blocked Java. <FONT face="Times New Roman" 
  color=black><SPAN 
  style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-color-alt: windowtext">
  <P 
  style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 76.7pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 5.0pt"><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">ASM wrote: <FONT 
  color=black><SPAN 
  style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext">
  <DIV 
  style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 5pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none">
  <P class=MsoNormal 
  style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 112.7pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 36pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 5.0pt"><SPAN 
  class=EmailStyle20><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 13.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana">I 
  believe its common to get problems when downloading the Proptrader Demo.I am 
  having problems trying to dowload the 
  demo.<SPAN 
  style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext">
  <P class=MsoNormal 
  style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 112.7pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 36pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-margin-top-alt: 0cm; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 5.0pt"><SPAN 
  class=EmailStyle20><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 13.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana">I 
  have tried to do a tracert to the Refco dns number, but it seems to halt at a 
  particular dns number.When doing a nslookup of that, the domain comes up as 
  non existent.<SPAN 
  style="COLOR: black"> <SPAN 
  style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext">
  <P class=MsoNormal 
  style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 112.7pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 36pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-margin-top-alt: 0cm; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 5.0pt"><SPAN 
  class=EmailStyle20><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 13.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana">Anybody 
  had anything similar ?<FONT 
  color=black> <SPAN 
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