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From: Hill, Ernie 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 4:39
PM
To: 'realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [RT] WizeTrade and
Other Similar Questions

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12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>There is at least one person on this list
that promotes his business via this list. He is overt and very clever the way
he does it and no one seems to complain, this includes Bob. I think his
promotion of his business comes much closer to violating the spirit of the
rules than does a discussion of other systems such as the one prompted by
John&#8217;s post. 

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12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Don&#8217;t misunderstand me I am not slamming
this individual. I am only pointing out that promotion does take place on this
list and it happens with out objection from the committee. I must agree with
John and others that healthy discussion of trading systems and their value are
appropriate for this forum, and I don&#8217;t think they constitute &#8220;advertising&#8221;
above and beyond some of the advertising that already takes place.

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12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I do agree that &#8220;trolling&#8221; should not be
allowed. I just think that the committee needs to re-think their collective
definition of what constitutes a violation of this bylaw.

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<font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma>-----Original
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From: John Cappello
[mailto:jvc689@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 12:59
PM
To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [RT] WizeTrade and Other
Similar Questions<span style='color:black;
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I am well aware that this is not up for vote. On the other hand 
member input is important. As an individual who has supplied system 
vendor info and requested the same in the past, I believe the 
Committee position should be reconsidered.

I learned and offered much regarding such mechanical systems.I 
sponsor nor promote any but rather provide info requested and also 
pose questions about member knowledge of systems.The last one I 
posted was re. Grandmill and I received a private reply since there 
seemed little general knowledge about it. The reply was helpful.

The above is a far cry from "promoting for one's own purposes".

John



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Originally From: I4Lothian@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [RT] WizeTrade
Date: 06/17/2002 01:37pm


In a message dated 6/17/2002 11:36:22 AM Central Daylight Time, 
bobskc@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes:


> It seems that it is important to once again state that it is not 
important 
> what I think, it is only important what the committee thinks and 
since they 
> 
> reflect the majority of the list member's opinions, my job is to 
carry out 
> the will of the members though their committee and not to make 
decisions on 
> 
> my own.  

How exactly does the committee reflect the majority of the list 
member's 
opinions?  Is there some polling thing I am not aware of?  Was
there 
an 
election held?  What is the term of office?

That statement is a boldfaced lie as far as I am concerned.

There is a difference between abuse of the list for commercial 
interests and 
a discussion of commercial interests.  And to force those discussions 
to 
private channels, as opposed to in the light of day for all to see, 
is wrong 
on multiple accounts.

Vigorous public discussion, with proper disclosure of any conflicts 
of 
interest, should be encouraged in the best interests of the group 
regardless 
of the member's personal or professional status.  

Regards,

John J. Lothian

Disclosure: Futures trading involves financial risk, lots of it!  
John J. 
Lothian is the President of the Electronic Trading Division of The 
Price 
Futures Group, Inc., an Introducing Broker.






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