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Re: Re[6]: [RT] random price moves in ES?



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  Subject: Re[6]: [RT] random price moves 
  in ES?
  
  On Thursday, April 11, 2002, 9:12:09 PM, Neal Hughes wrote:NH> 
  Yes! Placing an entry right at a Fib just because it is a fib isNH> not 
  wise..NH> I expect price to stretch a bit beyond a Fib level, that 
  how theNH> markets work..
   
  Yes, all "lines" (fibo, So9, 
  trendlines) are "thick" lines.An interesting 
  note. What I originally proposed is to identify'turn-arounds' and see if 
  they are more likely to occur at Fib levels.You also seem to be saying is 
  that there is a need to confirm the'turn' before you consider it to be 
  valid.I deliberately left the issue of 'turn-arounds' rather 
  vague,preferring to concentrate initially on the Fibs themselves. I 
  didmention that the the swings will turn out to be the most 
  importantissue, though.These 'turn-arounds' are really smaller 
  swings that may, or may not,be tradable but do indicate an effect of the 
  Fib lines.One reason for separating the math from the trading is that 
  the mathview has the characteristics of these small pivots as a 
  continuum,whereas the trading view makes a sharp distinction at some 
  'arbitrary'value, which may be different for different traders. This mixes 
  in anunnecessary restriction on the math analysis. Once the math analysis 
  isdone, we will have the results for *all* traders - a particular 
  traderonly needs to select the pivot characteristics s/he is 
  comfortablewith.Back to the pivots. Are you really saying, in 
  effect, that you need aturn around of a certain size, occurring at a Fib, 
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