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Norman,
Excellent presentation, well stated, clear,
concise and professionally communicated.
Thanks.
Tom
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Norman
Winski
To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:19
AM
Subject: Re: [RT] List description:
interrogatories
If you ask me, a vote for Mark Brown and all of his aliases
is a vote forrudeness and disruption to this list. It may well be that
Mark Brown isstill on this list under other aliases and is now posting
support for hisown return. I would invetigate those who post support for
Mark Brown. Thosewho are infatuated with Mark Brown should leave
this list and form their ownMark Brown Oddball list so they can insult and
take shots at each other totheir hearts' delight.
.Cheers,Norman----- Original Message
-----From: "ChasW" <cwwaring@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To:
<realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 7:56
AMSubject: Re: [RT] List description: interrogatories> If
you asking for a vote, i vote for mark brown> ----- Original
Message -----> From: "BobsKC" <bobskc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> To:
<realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 2:21
AM> Subject: Re: [RT] List description:
interrogatories>>> > I respect your views Kent.
It is important for me to hear everyone's> > thoughts. I said
I would not try to press my personal agenda on thelist> > and I
meant that. None the less, unless I see clear evidence to the>
> contrary, I will continue to believe that courtesy is not a
happenstance> > trait but rather a required commodity for any group
of people our size.I> > also will need to see a clear majority
who wish to have Mark Brown backon> > this list and I do not
believe there is even a remote possibility ofthat> >
happening. Whatever else we may or may not agree on, I would hope
you> > agree that a group such as ours should make decisions based
on the> > democratic concept of majority rules.> >>
> As to people selling things on the list, I addressed that in my
postwith> > suggestions for changes to our list description but
you left my> suggestions> > for that part of the new
description off your post. There are some> > commercial
enterprise interests on our list but as long as they don't>
troll> > the list for customers, I don't have a problem with
that. I know ofthree> > business owners on here and they
all contribute to the list. Business> > owners are people too
and many if not all, on this list, are traders.> >> > Your
point about people making unnecessary short replies to the list is>
> well taken but as you, yourself, pointed out, we have many newer
members> of> > the trading/investing world who are likely new
to computers and maillists> > as well. The bandwidth for a
txt email is nearly nonexistent andremoving> > people for
over-exuberance is unlikely to happen.> >> > Again, I
thank you for your input and hope you will continue to express> >
your views which will always be given respective attention.>
>> > All best,> >> > Bob> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > At 11:25
PM 4/4/2002 -0500, you wrote:> >> > > >Please keep
posts to the point and on the subject matter and refrain> from>
> > >unnecessary short reply posts like "thank you" type replies that
useup> > > >valuable members' reading time.> >
>> > >I would like to see posting privs for people who violate
this rule> suspended> > >just as much or more than I would
like to see people who occassionally> > >attack others get booted
off the list. "Me toos" and "thank yous" take> up> >
>far more bandwidth and are substantially worth less than some
attacks.> > >> > >> > > >Also,
please give each member's post the respect it deserves, whether>
or> > > >not you agree with the conclusions reached, and treat
each other with> > > >professionalism and common decency.
Personal attacks are not to bemade> on> > > >this
forum. Violators will be removed immediately.> > >> >
> >Posts advertising the sale of any products or services of
companiesare> not> > > >tolerated in this forum.
Members who post these kind of messages will> be> > >
>removed immediately.> > >> > >This is the big
area of contention. What a lot of people don't know is>
that> > >some people will post market calls or will make subtle
references tosome> > >magic method they use and then when
people (mostly newbies) on the list> > >approach them privately,
the poster will try to sell them something.> Many> > >of
you don't appreciate the fact that this is what Mark Brown
wastrying> to> > >expose. You all just get so
frosted that he made a personal attack.You> > >never consider
the reason for the attack. Mark has shown me some ofthe> >
>stuff that vendors ON THIS LIST tried to sell him when he
contactedthem> > >privately under an alias.> >
>> > >And let's consider the phrase "give each member's post
the respect it> > >deserves". Does a post deserve respect
just because a member of this> list> > >made it? I
submit the answer is "No". When someone posts "the market>
will> > >go up and the market will go down over the next few
days", that iswholly> > >deserving of ridicule. Compare
profitok's posts to Hohn Capello's.Ben> is> > >very
specific, Capello is very vague. Membership of this list can be>
broken> > >down into 2 categories: the experienced and the
inexperienced. Ibelieve> > >that when the experienced
members of this list take the time toridicule> > >worthless
posts, they are doing a service to the inexperienced. How>
about> > >you? They are also BENEFITTING all members of the
list because the> object> > >of ridicule will consider his
or her posts more carefully. If theperson> > >being
ridiculed is actually a spammer pretending to make real market>
calls,> > >that person will be more likely to move on in search
of more spammable> > >pastures. I don't know about you, but
I would like to be on a listwhere> > >people who put REAL
MONEY behind their trades are the on people posting> to> >
>the list. Not a list where anyone with an email account tosses
out> > >completely hypothetical crap about what the market may or
may not doover> a> > >hypothetical timeframe.
How about you? I'm not interested in the fact> that> >
>Mars is up Uranus. I want to know what that means for the
market. How> > >about you?> > >> >
>> > > >New membership to the Realtraders forum is by
invitation only, withthe> > > >exception of existing
members who are changing email addresses.> > >> > >I
would like Mark Brown to be reinstated. And perhaps when he
attacks> > >someone, the more sensitive members on the list could
think aboutwhether> or> > >not he has a point rather
than just getting your panties in a wad.> > >> >
>> > > >***Membership in Realtraders is open to anyone who
wishes to learnand> > > >share information in a
professional environment where courtesy and> respect> > >
>of one another is paramount.***> > >> > >I would
like professionalism to be paramount. Professionalism does not>
mean> > >politeness. The respect or lack of respect I get
from this list haszero> > >effect on my ego.
Zero. If I were to post some crap and get hammered> for>
> >it, I would reconsider the crap that I posted, not whine to
the> moderator.> > >And I would much rather belong to a
Real Traders list where RealTraders> > >acted like Klingons
who just won the Soccer World Cup than I would like> to> >
>belong to a list where faux traders treat each other with respect
and> > >courtesy.> > >> > >If you had
to be on a list with Dic Migrains or Mark Browns, whichwould>
you> > >choose?> > >> > >> >
>Kent> > >> > >> > >> >
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