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Re: [RT] Time and Motion Trading Test



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I was looking for the same thing Earl.  I thought we had something when the
ND broke and held 1430ish, but while the ND crept lower the Dow crept higher
trapping the S&P inside a 6 point range...ugh.  It would sure be nice to
have a day(s) when the DJ/ND are in sync instead of divergent the majority
of the time.  Looks like we need the Dow to surrender the 260 area to get
through 1134 which should liven things up a bit.  In the interim I hope
bonds continue to move the way they have been.  What a pleasure it was to
trade them again today.

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Earl Adamy" <eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [RT] Time and Motion Trading Test


> I submit that this morning's trading is nothing more than a bear flag
> setting up within the bounds of 38% retracement of the decline ... this
> suggests that 1134 is unlikely to hold.
>
> Earl
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "BobR" <bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 8:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [RT] Time and Motion Trading Test
>
>
> > Classical MP theory says we are in for a range bound day defined by
1144.1
> > and 1134.30 because the open was within Monday's value area.  So far the
> > first 3 half hour brackets are pretty much hanging onto Monday's value
> area
> > pivot of 1139.2.  So, its for S/R trading within vah and val until a
close
> > and open outside that area.
> >
> > bobr
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "BobR" <bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: [RT] Time and Motion Trading Test
> >
> >
> > > The system trade here is a break above the first hour high at 1141.5
and
> > > since the day's range is so narrow so far compared to the average,
John
> > > might easily get the 4 points to take it from the current four to the
> > > average of 9.29.
> > >
> > > bobr
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "John Cappello" <jvc689@xxxxxxx>
> > > To: "Ira Tunik" <irat@xxxxxxxxx>; <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:29 AM
> > > Subject: [RT] Time and Motion Trading Test
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dear Ira,
> > > >
> > > > I am using EST . The cash S&P at 10 AM was -7.4 and at 10:15 was -
> > > > 7.14, maybe a buy signal in raw state. I am looking initially at a 4
> > > > pt stop and 11:15 AM exit.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------ Reply Separator --------------------
> > > > Originally From: Ira Tunik <irat@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Subject: Re: [RT] Time and Motion Trading
> > > > Date: 04/02/2002 06:32am
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In almost any cycle study a pattern shows up.  When you use 10:00
AM,
> > > > which
> > > > time zone are you in?  If you are still trading at 2 PM it certainly
> > > > isn't
> > > > the west coast.  By breaking down the daily bars one can locate
> > > > certain times
> > > > of the day when markets tend to reverse their direction.  If you get
> > > > down to
> > > > the 5 min. 3 min. and 1 min. time frames you are able to get down to
> > > > the 1
> > > > 1/2 hour cycles, etc.  There used to be patterns that occurred when
> > > > it was
> > > > lunch time in NY and Chicago, but they only held up for a little
> > > > while.  One
> > > > has to take the time to not only find the cycle but to analyze it
and
> > > > understand that it will not remain constant and for a while they
> > > > could become
> > > > self fulfilling.  I have not been able to find a timing system that
> > > > will
> > > > stand alone as a trading vehicle.  If anyone has, I would be
> > > > interested. Ira.
> > > >
> > > > PS. Does the sky have a color or is it just a reflection of
something
> > > > else?
> > > > Just like some on this list, who act as mirrors of drivel and bad
> > > > taste.
> > > >
> > > > John Cappello wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Certain authors have written about the subject. The one I have
been
> > > > > casually following is an observation that the S&P market starts to
> > > > > establish two major moves , one at 10 AM and another at 2 PM.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have just been observing the 10 AM move by logging in the cash
> > > > > value at 10 AM and again at 10:15 AM. In 4 of the five days
followed
> > > > > the direction up or down movement was sustained to at least until
> > > > > 11:15 for what appeared to be a profit.
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anyone tried to build a system around anything close to this
> > > > > concept.?
> > > > >
> > > > > Ben made a beautiful post on calls with charts and all...no
comments
> > > > > from the peanut gallery likely because they did not understand it.
> > > > >
> > > >
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