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Hello Quant and All,

This is living proof you have nothing to offer.No answer to two easy 
questions. No..the Quant is above that.

The time it takes reading your response and your writing it would 
take more time than for you to tell how you would do it. That tells 
me reams.You do not know how to do it.!

No one should be subject to your abuse; especially steady 
contributors like Ira and others

If you think I did not know all of the negative aspects about the 
systems you mentioned and their creators, you are dreaming. They did 
well for a period and then flopped. All of a sudden the creators 
became scammers and were regulated and fined. Tell me something I did 
not know.I dropped them when they stopped performing not because of 
some regulatory article. You probably took the extra time to respond 
to me to search your archives on how to respond.

Whatever "qualifications I threw around" were accurate  compared to 
what you provide [which is zero]. You never offer any qualifications 
even if asked and all you do is club away at your keyboard like the 
cavceman you call me..

I think you must have come from the Omega group because that is the 
way you act.

And the reason you can not elucidate what you have done is probably 
that! all you do is critique and do searches which takes most of your 
time.

I would ask of you the same questions about testing and you would not 
answer in an hour ,let alone a minute. I have done everything from 
double blind testing to beta testing and hired the right people for 
one minute trading resolution and more. Once again you elude 
answering two simple questions by attacking.

I had an idea  that this could once again become a forum to express 
and retrieve knowledge...but with you on this list that will never 
happen.

So drudge away in your make believe world that you are some superstar 
of trading with no at bats ever posted nor any batting average 
logically.In that way no one can assess YOUR credentials.

I will continue to post but never respond to you or yours until you 
come to your senses. As a fact you show signs and aymptoms of mental 
disease in your posts. Symptoms like these generally run in the 
family tree--like inbreeding. You should seek help.

Having said all that, I would add I too feel very good about myself 
and pity you. A babe in the woods I am not and that is a real laugh.

I have just satisfied myself that I have flushed you out like the 
farce you are and not worth any more than a nanosecond of my time in 
the future.

Dispassionately,

John 


------------------ Reply Separator --------------------
Originally From: TheQuant <thequant@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [RT] Time and Motion Trading
Date: 04/02/2002 02:04pm


Hello John,

JC> If  you  can respond to the two items below in a non sarcastic and
JC> hamanitarian  way  I  would  join  QUANT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  in  a NY
JC> minute.Otherwise my wife is telling me I am spending too much time
JC> on you. And you KNOW she may be right I do BELIEVE.

It is very hard to communicate to a cave man that world in not flat.
But I will try and not punish you out of my frustration, that is wrong
and I apologize in advance just in case.

JC> Dear Quant,

JC> Two items:

JC> 1.  How  would you do it? An answer and not another critique would
JC> be appreciated.

JC> 2.  I  am  told  by  those more astute than I with the TS that the
JC> latest  model backtests with I minute resolution. I have seen such
JC> backtesting correlate with realtime results whether good or bad.

Honestly  it would be a waste of my time and effort to try and educate
you  any  further on the subject of trading. When I read below who and
what  you  think  are  usable  systems.  Plus  the  credibility of the
purveyors  associated  with  those  two  systems. I would say that the
qualifications  you  once  threw  around here as many others have mean
absolutely  nothing  but evidence of a lack of knowledge in this field
which I so arrogantly reside.

JC> I  am  glad  you know I am not a scammer but a seeker of the truth
JC> which  often  comes  by hypothesizing and testing. Forward testing
JC> tells me a lot more than backtesting.

I have a full minute tell everything you know about testing?  Did you
do it somewhere professionally where they paid your for your research?

JC> So  far  you know what I do and how I run my portfolio and my good
JC> and bad mechanical trading years [Master Suite, Dual Thrust, etc].

Master Suite - if the name alone doesn't scream at you SCAM!  Then
perhaps the government can educate you better.
http://www.cftc.gov/ogc/oporders99/ogcr_wtechnical031699.htm

Dual Thrust - another systems by another scammer. Find the information
on  tHE  NFA  web site. Also note that the Dual Thrust web site claims
they  have  a  mechanical system, but it's not good enough to trade so
they want to trade your account using their discretion, funny stuff.

BASIC Narrative
UNIVERSAL TECHNICAL SYSTEM INC
NFA ID 0090343
NFA Case No. 87BCC00034

CHALEK, MICHAEL EDWARD 0101247  0090343

http://www.nfa.futures.org/basic/text.asp?
ref=87BCC00034&nfaid=0090343&name=UNIVERSAL+TECHNICAL+SYSTEM+INC&contr
ib=NFA

Tuesday,  April  02,  2002987,  THE  CENTRAL REGIONAL BUSINESS CONDUCT
COMMITTEE ISSUED A COMPLAINT AGAINST MICHAEL E. CHALEK ("CHALEK"). THE
COMPLAINT   ALLEGES   THAT   CHALEK   USED  DECEPTIVE  AND  MISLEADING
PROMOTIONAL  MATERIAL  IN VIOLATION OF NFA COMPLIANCE RULE 2-29(B)(2);
USED  PROMOTIONAL MATERIAL WHICH FAILED TO MENTION THE RISK OF LOSS IN
VIOLATION OF NFA COMPLIANCE RULE 2-29(B)(3); USED PROMOTIONAL MATERIAL
WHICH FAILED TO MENTION THAT PAST PROFITS ARE NOT INDICATIVE OF FUTURE
RESULTS   IN   VIOLATION  OF  NFA  COMPLIANCE  RULE  2-29(B)(5);  USED
PROMOTIONAL   MATERIAL   WHICH  CONTAINED  MISSTATEMENTS  OF  FACT  IN
VIOLATION  OF NFA COMPLIANCE RULE 2-2(A) AND 2-29(B)(2); AND FAILED TO
SUPERVISE  HIS  EMPLOYEES  IN  THE  CONDUCT OF THEIR COMMODITY FUTURES
ACTIVITIES  IN  VIOLATION  OF  NFA  COMPLIANCE  RULE 2-9. DECISION: ON
NOVEMBER  23,  1987,  THE CENTRAL COMMITTEE ACCEPTED CHALEK'S OFFER OF
SETTLEMENT  AND  AUTHORIZED  THE  ISSUANCE OF A DECISION. THE DECISION
DIRECTED  CHALEK  TO  CEASE  AND DESIST FROM FURTHER VIOLATIONS OF NFA
REQUIREMENTS AND TO PAY A FINE OF $10,000.

JC> But what do you do and what have you done.

Why would I need to tell you?  I feel good about myself already!

JC> Still sincerely,

JC> John

You are a babe in the woods John.




-- 
Best regards,
 TheQuant                            


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