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RE: [RT] PSYCH:Capacity to Learn/Nasrudin (off-topic, but what isn't lately...)



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Hmmm... 
Please re-read paragraph1.  Search Amazon on Idries Shah.  

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Lee Morris [mailto:LMorris@xxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
11:33 AMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: [RT] 
PSYCH:Capacity to Learn/Nasrudin (off-topic, but what isn't 
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class=770253119-27032002>these are great are they collected in a 
book???
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    <FONT face=Tahoma 
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    [mailto:DavidRNews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
    2:16 PMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: 
    [RT] PSYCH:Capacity to Learn/Nasrudin (off-topic, but what isn't 
    lately...)
    Norman, 
    I'm surprised at you!  You haven't heard of Nasrudin?  Nasrudin is 
    the Sufi Mullah whose exploits are told in various books by Idries Shah, 
    including "Wisdom of the Idiots" (appropriate trading title), and "The 
    Exploits of the Incomparable Mulla Nasrudin / The Subtleties of the 
    Inimitable Mulla Nasrudin".  There are hundreds of Nasrudin "crazy 
    wisdom" stories, many are quite wonderful.  You in particular would 
    really like this guy!
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    My 
    favorite Nasrudin story, highly applicable to trading:
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    class=765495717-27032002>Nasrudin is crouched on the 
    street, peering at the ground.  A man walks up and asks him what he's 
    doing.  "I'm looking for my 
    watch."
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    it?"
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    Street."
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    class=765495717-27032002>"But this is Third Street.  Why are 
    you looking for it here?"
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    class=765495717-27032002>"The light's 
    better."
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    Here's a 
    few more samples, copied from various web sites (Google search on 
    "Nasrudin"), 
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    Nasrudin walked 
    into a teahouse and declaimed, "The moon is more useful than the sun." 
    "Why?" he was asked. "Because at night we need the light 
    more."
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    <FONT face=Arial 
    color=#0000ff>The Mulla approached the very 
    beautiful woman at the market and said, "You know I've lost my wife here in 
    the market. Can you talk to me for a couple of minutes?""Why?" asked the 
    woman."Because every time I talk to a beautiful woman," explained the 
    Mulla, my wife appears out of nowhere."
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    A neighbour came to 
    Nasrudin, asking to borrow his donkey. "It is out on loan," the teacher 
    replied. At that moment, the donkey brayed loudly inside the stable. "But I 
    can hear it bray, over there." "Whom do you believe," asked Nasrudin, "me or 
    a donkey?"
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    <FONT face=Arial 
    color=#0000ff>Two men came before 
    Nasrudin when he was magistrate. The first man said, "This man has bitten my 
    ear -- I demand compensation." The second man said, "He bit it himself." 
    Nasrudin withdrew to his chambers, and spent an hour trying to bite his own 
    ear. He succeeded only in falling over and bruising his forehead. Returning 
    to the courtroom, Nasrudin pronounced, "Examine the man whose ear was 
    bitten. If his forehead is bruised, he did it himself and the case is 
    dismissed. If his forehead is not bruised, the other man did it and must pay 
    three silver pieces
    
    I'm sure 
    there is much applicable to trading here...
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    David
    
    -----Original Message-----From: 
    Norman Winski [mailto:nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Wednesday, 
    March 27, 2002 9:35 AMTo: 
    realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [RT] PSYCH:Capacity to 
    Learn
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      Ric,
       
        How many people do you know named 
      "Nasrudin"?  Did you create this 
      character yourself or from what book did you derive it? 
       
       
      Thanks,
       
      Norman
       
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        style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: 
        ric 
        ingram 
        To: <A 
        title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        
        Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
        6:22 AM
        Subject: [RT] PSYCH:Capacity to 
        Learn
        Hi,Most of us have a capacity to 
        learn and improve.   Often, however, hope for 
        improvement is confused with capacity to learn.It is very 
        different - this email is about one common source of that 
        difference.We all have inner tendencies that get in our way when 
        we want to learn.Often we seek diversion as a priority over 
        genuine aspiration for knowledge.This need for diversion shows 
        up as one or more 
        of:        -       "I 
        came here for 
        fun.",        -       "I 
        know how I learn 
        best",        -       "I 
        want to learn in this 
        sequence",        -       ...and 
        it tends to get in the way of learning.As an example there is an 
        old tale about the sequence of learning.    
        Nasrudin wanted to learn to play a musical 
        instrument.   The fee was five silver pieces for the first 
        lesson and three silver pieces for the second and subsequent 
        lessons.  'Very well', said Nusrudin, 'I'll start with the second 
        lesson.'Often to learn we have 
        to:        -       unlearn 
        something 
        first,        -       relinquish 
        existing 
        beliefs,        -       digest 
        the new 
        ideas,        -       integrate 
        the new 
        ideas,        -       ...Many 
        of us do not find that fun at all, having poor recollections of school 
        days learning.   This may be part of the reason we put up 
        barriers to learning.So those looking for diversion find their 
        latent capacity to learn suppressed by their own inner 
        tendencies.Sad really, but not a hopeless situation.   
        Sometimes just awareness of the inner tendency to seek diversion is 
        sufficient to overcome it.   Sometimes it requires more 
        work.   But perhaps everyone has a capacity to learn if freed 
        from self-imposed barriers.A light-hearted approach to learning 
        works well - it eases the process of give and take of ideas, makes 
        changes in beliefs and attitudes occur more readily, opens the eyes to 
        new vistas and perceptions.It is when a light-hearted approach 
        is based on a need for diversion that there is usually a 
        problem.People with a need for diversion often express this as 
        :        -       complaints 
        about style, or length, or paragraph 
        style,        -       ask 
        where is the fun or 
        joke,        -       behave 
        in a child-like 
        manner,        -       execute 
        their strong 
        emotions,        -       seek 
        crowd 
        support,        -       become 
        self-righteous when they perceive crowd support is 
        available,        -       seek 
        excuses to reject the 
        opportunity,        -       see 
        selling where there is 
        none,        -       attack 
        the individual rather than the 
        idea,        -       take 
        the impersonal 
        personally,        -       ...We 
        all suffer from this to some degree.Are you going to release 
        your potential to learn?   If so, you probably need to address 
        your inner tendencies.May your potential be realised, 
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