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  <FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: David Rosenthal 
  [mailto:DavidRNews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 
  2:16 PMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: RE: [RT] 
  PSYCH:Capacity to Learn/Nasrudin (off-topic, but what isn't 
  lately...)
  Norman, I'm 
  surprised at you!  You haven't heard of Nasrudin?  Nasrudin is the 
  Sufi Mullah whose exploits are told in various books by Idries Shah, including 
  "Wisdom of the Idiots" (appropriate trading title), and "The Exploits of the 
  Incomparable Mulla Nasrudin / The Subtleties of the Inimitable Mulla 
  Nasrudin".  There are hundreds of Nasrudin "crazy wisdom" stories, many 
  are quite wonderful.  You in particular would really like this 
  guy!
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  face=Arial> 
  My favorite 
  Nasrudin story, highly applicable to trading:
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  face=Arial> 
  <SPAN 
  class=765495717-27032002>Nasrudin is crouched on the 
  street, peering at the ground.  A man walks up and asks him what he's 
  doing.  "I'm looking for my 
  watch."
  <SPAN 
  class=765495717-27032002>The man asks "Where did you lose 
  it?"
  <SPAN 
  class=765495717-27032002>"I lost it on Fifth 
  Street."
  <SPAN 
  class=765495717-27032002>"But this is Third Street.  Why are you 
  looking for it here?"
  <SPAN 
  class=765495717-27032002>"The light's 
  better."
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  face=Arial> 
  Here's a 
  few more samples, copied from various web sites (Google search on "Nasrudin"), 
  
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  face=Arial> 
  Nasrudin walked into 
  a teahouse and declaimed, "The moon is more useful than the sun." "Why?" he 
  was asked. "Because at night we need the light 
  more."
  <FONT color=#0000ff 
  face=Arial> 
  <FONT color=#0000ff 
  face=Arial>The Mulla approached the very beautiful 
  woman at the market and said, "You know I've lost my wife here in the market. 
  Can you talk to me for a couple of minutes?""Why?" asked the 
  woman."Because every time I talk to a beautiful woman," explained the 
  Mulla, my wife appears out of nowhere."
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  face=Arial> 
  A neighbour came to 
  Nasrudin, asking to borrow his donkey. "It is out on loan," the teacher 
  replied. At that moment, the donkey brayed loudly inside the stable. "But I 
  can hear it bray, over there." "Whom do you believe," asked Nasrudin, "me or a 
  donkey?"
  <FONT color=#0000ff 
  face=Arial><FONT 
  color=#000000> 
  <FONT color=#0000ff 
  face=Arial>Two men came before Nasrudin 
  when he was magistrate. The first man said, "This man has bitten my ear -- I 
  demand compensation." The second man said, "He bit it himself." Nasrudin 
  withdrew to his chambers, and spent an hour trying to bite his own ear. He 
  succeeded only in falling over and bruising his forehead. Returning to the 
  courtroom, Nasrudin pronounced, "Examine the man whose ear was bitten. If his 
  forehead is bruised, he did it himself and the case is dismissed. If his 
  forehead is not bruised, the other man did it and must pay three silver 
  pieces
  
  I'm sure 
  there is much applicable to trading here...
  <FONT color=#0000ff 
  face=Arial> 
    
  David
  
  -----Original Message-----From: 
  Norman Winski [mailto:nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Wednesday, 
  March 27, 2002 9:35 AMTo: 
  realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [RT] PSYCH:Capacity to 
  Learn
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    Ric,
     
      How many people do you know named "<FONT 
    face="Times New Roman" size=3>Nasrudin"?  Did you create this character 
    yourself or from what book did you derive it? 
     
     
    Thanks,
     
    Norman
     
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      ----- Original Message ----- 
      <DIV 
      style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: 
      ric 
      ingram 
      To: <A 
      href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
      title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 6:22 
      AM
      Subject: [RT] PSYCH:Capacity to 
      Learn
      Hi,Most of us have a capacity to learn 
      and improve.   Often, however, hope for improvement is 
      confused with capacity to learn.It is very different - this email 
      is about one common source of that difference.We all have inner 
      tendencies that get in our way when we want to learn.Often we seek 
      diversion as a priority over genuine aspiration for knowledge.This 
      need for diversion shows up as one or more 
      of:        -       "I 
      came here for 
      fun.",        -       "I 
      know how I learn 
      best",        -       "I 
      want to learn in this 
      sequence",        -       ...and 
      it tends to get in the way of learning.As an example there is an 
      old tale about the sequence of learning.    
      Nasrudin wanted to learn to play a musical instrument.   
      The fee was five silver pieces for the first lesson and three silver 
      pieces for the second and subsequent lessons.  'Very well', said 
      Nusrudin, 'I'll start with the second lesson.'Often to learn we 
      have 
      to:        -       unlearn 
      something 
      first,        -       relinquish 
      existing 
      beliefs,        -       digest 
      the new 
      ideas,        -       integrate 
      the new 
      ideas,        -       ...Many 
      of us do not find that fun at all, having poor recollections of school 
      days learning.   This may be part of the reason we put up 
      barriers to learning.So those looking for diversion find their 
      latent capacity to learn suppressed by their own inner 
      tendencies.Sad really, but not a hopeless situation.   
      Sometimes just awareness of the inner tendency to seek diversion is 
      sufficient to overcome it.   Sometimes it requires more 
      work.   But perhaps everyone has a capacity to learn if freed 
      from self-imposed barriers.A light-hearted approach to learning 
      works well - it eases the process of give and take of ideas, makes changes 
      in beliefs and attitudes occur more readily, opens the eyes to new vistas 
      and perceptions.It is when a light-hearted approach is based on a 
      need for diversion that there is usually a problem.People with a 
      need for diversion often express this as 
      :        -       complaints 
      about style, or length, or paragraph 
      style,        -       ask 
      where is the fun or 
      joke,        -       behave 
      in a child-like 
      manner,        -       execute 
      their strong 
      emotions,        -       seek 
      crowd 
      support,        -       become 
      self-righteous when they perceive crowd support is 
      available,        -       seek 
      excuses to reject the 
      opportunity,        -       see 
      selling where there is 
      none,        -       attack 
      the individual rather than the 
      idea,        -       take 
      the impersonal 
      personally,        -       ...We 
      all suffer from this to some degree.Are you going to release your 
      potential to learn?   If so, you probably need to address your 
      inner tendencies.May your potential be realised, 
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