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[RT] Re: 12/19 and bonds



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It'll be there.  They'll only cancel a contract after the volume and 
open interest diasappear.   Bonds will be around for at least a few 
more years.


--- In realtraders@xxxx, "Don Ewers" <dbewers@xxxx> wrote:
> Does anyone know if the US2H will trade after 12-19-01?
> 
> Comments from RS (CNBC) in the bond pit after the announcement left 
me
> wondering, when he said that the futures have traded there since 
1977.  I
> wasn't sure if he was implying they would not be trading going 
forward or
> not?
> 
> I see there are US2H and US2M trading as of today?
> 
> What's the scoop on the futures (and options)?
> don ewers
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Earl Adamy" <eadamy@xxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 2:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [RT] Re: 12/19 and bonds
> 
> 
> > I think they were looking for a way to drive down the long end of 
the
> yield
> > curve and managed to do it beautifully. The open interest in the 
futures
> is
> > huge and as someone here already pointed out, all those shorts 
are going
> to
> > have to be covered. My chart work in equities (e.g. SP weekly 
posted this
> > weekend) has already been suggesting some pending strength. I 
have a
> feeling
> > that this move is going to add to that strength.
> >
> > Earl
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dorothy K. Carter" <dorothy.carter@xxxx>
> > To: <realtraders@xxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 1:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: [RT] Re: 12/19 and bonds
> >
> >
> > > The timing of the announcement was because they were waiting 
for the
> > > officials to be sworn into office... so that's why today... I 
heard
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <chrischeatham@xxxx>
> > > To: <realtraders@xxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 3:21 PM
> > > Subject: [RT] Re: 12/19 and bonds
> > >
> > >
> > > > Interesting.  Just thinking of the "surprise" 10 year auction 
done by
> > > > Treasury a few weeks back done to take pressure off the repo 
market.
> > > > Now lets see what they do when there are inbalances of their 
own
> > > > creation.  I guess the good news is that they did it a couple 
of
> > > > months early.  This Treasury is turning into much more of a 
trader
> > > > than I gave them credit for.
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In realtraders@xxxx, bruce.larson@xxxx wrote:
> > > > > Another poster here and I both agreed a while back the bond 
would
> > > > top
> > > > > out on Dec 19.  December 19 is the last trade and delivery 
deadline
> > > > > for December futures.  There's going to be one heck of a mad
> > > > scramble
> > > > > when all the bond longs demand delivery come December.  
Who's going
> > > > > to give'em up?  Just watch.  Its going to get real 
interesting.  In
> > > > > fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the exchange has to come 
in to
> > > > alter
> > > > > the rules.  They did it for the German bobl contract in the 
mid 90s
> > > > > when there was a big squeeze and the shorts couldn't 
deliver.
> > > > > 30 year UK gilts are at 4.3 vs 4.5 for UK ten years.  Could 
be a
> > > > good
> > > > > proxy for things to come in the US.
> > > >
> > > >
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