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Dorothy,
The point was not geographical in nature, but rather thinking about
problems in a different way than what is currently the convention. Bush
spoke about energy independence a few days ago as a plug for drilling in the
Artic. Bush is stuck in the "oil box". Drilling in the Artic, at best, is a
short term remedy, not a solution to our oil addiction. This is like a drug
addict suggesting the answer to his problem is to find another drug dealer
or a new source for drugs. . More oil will not solve our long term problem
which is an addiction to oil. Where is more oil and more drilling going to
put us in 50 years? I think the answer is that we will be in the same bad
position we are in now. More oil will only serve, at best, to delay the
inevitable. We need to think outside of the box to assure freedom,
prosperity, and security for the US and the Free World. . If elected, I
promise I will.......
Cheers,
Norman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy Carter" <dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] Oil!
> Norman in Alaska they have long winters with very short sunlight hours...
> and in Summer there are long sunlite hrs.. I have not heard if there is a
> way yet to store this SOLAR energy for use beyond a certain amount of
> time.... NOT EVERYONE LIVES IN FLORIDA... :-)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Norman Winski" <nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 2:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [RT] Oil!
>
>
> > Michael F,
> >
> > I say let's kick the hyrdocarbon habit altogether. That stuff is a
> > depleting asset that pollutes our enviorment. Oil has caused us big
> trouble
> > in the past and it is going to cause big trouble in the future.. Think
of
> > the billions being spent on the war and being given to the airlines. If
> we
> > directed a fraction of that amount toward a serious alternative energy
> > research we would soon have a way to kick the oil habit. We could save
> > billiions and save our enviroment for future generations.
> >
> > For example, I could be stupid, run a heat pump for my swimming pool
and
> > spend an extra $200 per month for electricity. Instead, I have solar
> > heating, it costs almost nothing additioanal to operate, and my pool
temp.
> > averages 90 degrees. Because the solar heating system has very few
moving
> > parts, the maintanence for this system is much lower than a heat pump,
for
> > the same initiial costs. Heat pump life expectancy is about 7 years.
> Solar
> > heating system life expectancy is about 15 years. Both cost about the
same
> > for the initial outlay. Which would you want?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Norman
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Ferguson" <wl7bdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 10:00 AM
> > Subject: Re: [RT] Oil!
> >
> >
> > > I still say the West should cut off all oil purchases from the Mid
East.
> > Let
> > > them kill themselves over the last air conditioned limo. Let them pump
> oil
> > > into jerry jugs when all their tanks are full. And absolutely cut off
> > their
> > > access to western revenues.
> > >
> > > There is plenty of oil in other continents to supply the west for
years.
> > It
> > > might not be noticeable, but the ME produces NOTHING. It supplies oil
to
> > > producer nations. Something about their culture is totally
unproductive.
> > It
> > > is destructive and merciless. We should let them have it all to
> > themselves.
> > >
> > > Five years or so should suffice to reduce their populations to more
> > > manageable levels. The sheiks will whine and beg the west to please
buy
> > > their oil, at a discount for a friend of Rick.
> > >
> > > And the condition will simply be that the hate mongering "mullahs"
will
> be
> > > disposed of. Terminated. And the criminal psychotics dealt with
> > > appropriately. When they have their patch cleaned up and can control
the
> > > criminals inside their borders, the west will buy small quantities of
> oil
> > > from them, temporarily, to test the success of their self control.
> > >
> > > A five year time-out for the mid east.
> > >
> > > I know this sounds like whacko heresy to everyone who believes that
the
> > only
> > > oil that works in western economies comes from eastern suppliers, BUT
I
> > > DON'T BELIEVE IT.
> > >
> > > I am sitting very close to enough oil to run this country for years,
if
> > only
> > > America was smart enough to use it.
> > >
> > > Let 'em eat sand,
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Subject: [RT] Oil!
> > >
> > >
> > > > I must say that some of this 3rd party intelligence stuff regarding
> > Saudi
> > > > Arabia, murmurs out of the anti-Iraq side of the Bush
administration,
> > and
> > > > Israeli actions (e.g. last night's assassination of Hamas leader)
are
> > > giving
> > > > me the creeps when it comes to oil! Rick Simmons (a very respected
> > > > investment banker specializing in energy) wrote a piece 16-18 months
> ago
> > > > regarding the prospects for repeat of early 70's oil supply/price
> > shocks.
> > > > Prices followed his script until the recession brought down demand
but
> > now
> > > > his ME scenario is perking away. It's not so much that the ME powers
> > don't
> > > > need the cash flows but that politics appear to increasingly
threaten
> > oil
> > > > supplies whether it be an attack on the Alaska pipeline, overthrow
of
> a
> > ME
> > > > government, or terrorist attacks on ME oil fields or shipping
> terminals.
> > > >
> > > > Earl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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