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how
would heavy option plays tie into this?? could the aval loanable stock be
getting sucked up by the firms to hedge option activity??? if so what would that
option activity be
<FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Dorothy K. Carter
[mailto:dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx]Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 8:19
PMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [RT] VERY
HEAVY BLK activity ON MSFTThe average public has to
play by rules I layed out I believe.. The pointthough was the list
of stocks that were mentioned which are very liquidwidely held
stocks...... so there should not be a problem shorting thoseparticular
stocks...... that was my point... Your comments don't point toany
reason why those stocks would not be able to be shorted....... I
can'tspeak for dealers or market makers or specialists.. obviously they
don'thave to deal with uptick rule....... the average investor does ...
thoughthere has been talk about changing the uptick rule.. I know hedge
funds arepushing for that change... So the back to the original
question.... Do youreally believe that this last week there would be a
time when stocks likeMSFT, INTC, ORCl etc could not be shorted
unless the stock was notavailable by stock loan of the particular
brokerage firm that this personwas inquiring??????----- Original
Message -----From: "Jacobson, Alex"
<AJacobson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To:
<realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 8:10
PMSubject: RE: [RT] VERY HEAVY BLK activity ON MSFT> No
uptick for dealer hedge trades in OTC stocks. The $5 rule is to
makeit> marginable. Stock that can't be margined are, in
fact, shortable.....hard> for the general public .. but very common
overall.>> -----Original Message-----> From: Dorothy
Carter [mailto:dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx]> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001
8:02 PM> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [RT] VERY
HEAVY BLK activity ON MSFT>>> There are three things to
my knowledge that determine if a stock can be> shorted.. the first
requirement is most firms only allow margin on stocks> north of $5.....
then you have to get authorization from your broker'sstock> loan
dept. to short it.. thirdly you have to get an uptick...... all
the> the examples below fit north of $5 and we have seen plenty of
upticks this> week... so the only remaining question would be if the
firm's stock loanhad> stock to loan.... I know of no other
requirements for shorting stocks..> enlighten me please if I've missed
something........... best, Dorothy>>>> -----
Original Message -----> From: "Jacobson, Alex"
<AJacobson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> To:
<realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001
7:50 PM> Subject: RE: [RT] VERY HEAVY BLK activity ON
MSFT>>> It is not true. Other than tick
restrictions. If they became unshortable> for any period the
industry would have had to halt option trading.>> -----Original
Message-----> From: John Nelson [mailto:trader@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 7:37 PM> To:
realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: [RT] VERY HEAVY BLK activity
ON MSFT>>> At the Society of Market Technicians meeting
last evening one of the> participants mentioned that several of the
large popular stocks (Intel,GE,> Mmicrosoft) were not shortable
during the trading day. No one would lend> these major stocks for
shorting and thus there was a strong uptrend in the>
E-Mini.>> I'm curious as to what other people observed... could
this be true? Doesit> indicate a form of "manipulation" and
an attempt to move markets higher?>> -- John>>
-----Original Message-----> From: Dorothy Carter
[mailto:dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx]> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 11:16
AM> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [RT] VERY
HEAVY BLK activity ON MSFT>>> I'm sure you noticed
that "they" were buying MSFT this morning trying to> keep it up
to create firm tone to get S & P traders to cover shorts... now>
softy below 57 again. Richard Ney was the person I'm most familiar
withwho> is a big tracker of blks.. It takes a while to get a feel
for it and itdoes> require a bit of intuition........
:-)>> ----- Original Message -----> From: BobR
<mailto:bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Sent: Friday, October 05,
2001 2:10 PM> Subject: Re: [RT] VERY HEAVY BLK activity ON
MSFT>> That big block technique looks very intriguing. One
other rter used to> follow them. Believe it was Gitanshu
Buch. Right now we have the kiss of> breadth going on in the
Nasdaq. It looks improved from this morning, but> the NDX has
been inching up as the issue and volume breadth has been and> remains
net negative.> View for NYA looks even sicker.>>
bobr>>> ----- Original Message -----> From:
Dorothy K. Carter <mailto:dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx>> To:
realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:08 AM> Subject: Re: [RT] VERY HEAVY
BLK activity ON MSFT>> USING MSFT data below.. note the lowest
of the blks is 57.. MSFT hasdropped> below the higher blk trades
which will now become resistance vs support..so> once below 57 all
the mutual funds that bot softy are under water... These> stocks many
are back up to 9/17 or pre 911 and the specialists and market> makers
will jump at the chance to sell what they had to buy on the
waydown> and then they will go short again... I WILL CHECK AND SEE
WHAT PRICES OF> BLKS IF ANY ARE ON THE OTHERS... I BELIEVE I SENT CSCO
EARLIER....>> ----- Original Message -----> From: BobR
<mailto:bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Sent: Thursday, October 04,
2001 2:02 PM> Subject: Re: [RT] VERY HEAVY BLK activity ON
MSFT>> Dorothy, using the big block concept, what do you see as
the sell levelson> these stocks? Thanks,
bobr.>> MSFT> INTC> QCOM> CSCO>
ORCL> AMGN>>> ----- Original Message ----->
From: Dorothy Carter <mailto:dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx>> To:
realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:51 AM> Subject: [RT] VERY HEAVY BLK
activity ON MSFT>> This tech rally is getting long in the
tooth....>>> Symbol(s)
N/BLK
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----> 1:34 DJ DJ Microsoft Corp (MSFT) Block: 194,700 Shrs
At 57.80>> 1:21 DJ DJ General Elec (GE) Block:
287,000 Shrs At 38.35>> 1:21 DJ DJ Eli Lilly (LLY)
Block: 250,000 Shrs At 79.00>> 1:17 DJ DJ Barnes
& Noble (BKS) Block: 275,000 Shrs At 38.00>> 11:53 DJ
DJ EDS Corp (EDS) Block: 190,200 Shrs At 57.65>> 11:50 DJ
DJ Microsoft Corp (MSFT) Block: 190,000 Shrs At 57.96>>
11:50 DJ DJ EDS Corp (EDS) Block: 190,200 Shrs At 57.65>>
11:42 DJ DJ EDS Corp (EDS) Block: 190,200 Shrs At 57.65>>
11:41 DJ DJ Microsoft Corp (MSFT) Blk: 250,000 Shrs At
57.00>> 11:41 DJ DJ Financial SPDR F (XLF) Blk: 667,500
Shrs At 25.43>> 11:28 DJ DJ Microsoft Corp (MSFT) Blk:
250,000 Shrs At 57.00>> 11:13 DJ DJ Qwest Communicat (Q)
Blk: 627,200 Shrs At 16.45>> 11:12 DJ DJ Amer Intl Group
(AIG) Blk: 200,000 Shrs At 79.25>> 10:57 DJ DJ Apt Invest
& Mgm (AIV) Blk: 250,000 Shrs At 43.20>> 10:57 DJ DJ
Microsoft Corp (MSFT) Blk: 200,000 Shrs At 56.70>> 10:56
DJ DJ SW Airlines (LUV) Blk: 890,000 Shrs At 16.25>> 10:49
DJ DJ Amgen (AMGN) Blk: 190,400 Shrs At 58.72>> 10:38 DJ
DJ Boeing Co (BA) Blk: 444,800 Shrs At 36.10>> 10:38 DJ DJ
Microsoft Corp (MSFT) Blk: 231,900 Shrs At 57.00>> 10:32
DJ DJ Apt Invest & Mgm (AIV) Block: 250,000 Shrs At
43.20>> 10:32 DJ DJ Amgen (AMGN) Block: 190,400 Shrs At
58.72>> 10:32 DJ DJ Microsoft Corp (MSFT) Block: 231,900
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