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>The Palestinians that owned land before the state of Israel was 
>formed, owned the same land afterwards. 

I don't profest to know any more on this subject than anyone tuning 
into CNN.  But I wouldn't expect a bunch of nomads pitching a tent in 
the middle of the desert to own the land beneath them.  I don't doubt 
Palestinians got displaced against their will though.  I've read 
accounts of both sides and the stories don't match up.  Reminds me of 
listening to my kids.  Seems pretty obvious there will never be a 
resolution.  



--- In realtraders@xxxx, Ira Tunik <irat@xxxx> wrote:
> Have you ever heard of the Balfore Declaration?  Did you read the 
concessions
> that were made to the Palestinians?  Did you read the edict by the 
Arab states
> prior to the wars that they lost?  The UN took nothing away from the
> Palestinians, they left of their own accord.  The Palestinians that 
owned land
> before the state of Israel was formed, owned the same land 
afterwards.  The Arab
> states put the palestinians into camps and wouldn't have them.  The 
Arab states
> wanted to drive the Jewish people into the sea and annihilate 
them.  All people
> with influence are not Jewish.  This country was formed to allow 
people
> religious, political as well as personal freedom.  It was not NY 
state that
> elected President Bush. The Jewish people of this country have been 
very liberal
> in their thoughts and their actions as they have been persecuted 
for more then
> 5000 years, and here  comes the blame again.  Why is everything the 
fault of the
> Jewish people?  Why when Israelis get blown to bits by terrorists 
on a regular
> basis we tell them to negotiate and be nice and when we are the 
subject of the
> same terror, its is all out war against terror.  We let the killing 
and death
> camps go on until Pearl Harbor and now the same thing until the 
Twin Towers. It
> is all right for them to die as long as we are not touched.   There 
is nothing
> quite as eye opening as the loss of some of your own blood.   The 
Jews don't own
> Exxon, Mobile, Texaco, Arco, Tosco or any of the oil companies or 
drillers.  Do
> your home work before you start to lay blame.
> 
> Brooks Rimes wrote:
> 
> > I live in New York State, have visited NYC numerous times, and 
can certify
> > that what he said is correct.  Hand in hand with the political 
influence is
> > the financial influence.
> >
> > The U.S. is based on a separation of church and state.  I think 
the writers
> > of the Constitution would not have agreed with founding the 
country based on
> > one religion.
> >
> > I haven't read an entire book on it, but I know from World 
History class
> > that after WWII, the victors (with the U.S. in the lead) took 
land that the
> > Palestinians were living on and created Israel.  That is the 
source of the
> > problem.
> >
> > According to the newspapers here, the recent, escalated violence 
is due to
> > Israel's new, right wing, hard line PM, who chose not to follow 
the
> > agreements made before he took office.
> >
> > >From an objective viewpoint, it seems clear that the U.S. was 
attacked
> > because it is an ally of Israel.
> >
> > Brooks
> >
> > <The reason is obvious.: The Jewish Community in the US is very 
influential
> > politically.  The US was the biggest supporter of the creation of 
the State
> > of Israel
> > after the Holocaust.
> >
> > New York is the Centre of the US Jewish Community. That's also 
why Usucka
> > Bon Garbage  Would have targeted the WTC.>
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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