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Dorothy,
Folks in the investment and trading biz were out of business for the
week. Are we gonna get some money from Uncle Sam?
Cheers,
Norman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy K. Carter" <dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
> FED EX and UPS are in better condition than the airlines... 5-6 days of
no
> $$ coming in to airlines is a disasterto them... listen to what Congress
and
> Senate are doing this week... they are subsidizing airlines to keep them
in
> business..
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel Goncharoff" <thegonch@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 12:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
>
>
> > I am not convinced that the situation is as bad as you are implying.
> > Fedex is up on all national services except those in affected areas of
> > lower Manhattan. The majority of commercial flights are back in action.
> > The world continues, sadder but better prepared...
> >
> > Regards
> > DanG
> >
> > "Dorothy K. Carter" wrote:
> > >
> > > You correct that they operate on a thin line between profit or loss.
> > > Without the ability to quickly move people in business and goods would
> > > greatly hurt our economy to continue at the beat that we are use to.
> The
> > > last days we have had to resort to transporting via truck or train
> which
> > > takes more time. Clearing transactions in the securities business
> demands
> > > payment by settlement and while there is electronic transfer there is
> still
> > > the real clearing of the paper trail. Without planes to transport
mail
> > > rather you are talking US Post or UPS or FED EX ... all of business
> slows
> > > down waiting for the pony or truck to delivery goods ..... checks,
> order
> > > requests etc. Especially in this day of internet we are use to a
> instant
> > > gratification world and all of sudden we are blasted back to days
prior
> to
> > > flying.............
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Daniel Goncharoff" <thegonch@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:45 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
> > >
> > > > "The airline industry is the engine of our economy..."
> > > >
> > > > ?? What do you mean by this? As far as I know, the airline industry
> has
> > > > a long history of failure as an industry, which would imply
> economically
> > > > there is a serious question of the extent to which they add value.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > DanG
> > > >
> > > > Dorothy Carter wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Many try to compare how the market will respond to prior tragic
> > > events.....
> > > > > In my opinion what this tragedy does is exacerbate the trend and
> deepen
> > > the
> > > > > recession/depression cycle that we are already in. The economists
> will
> > > be
> > > > > hard pressed after this to continue to spin and parrot each
other's
> > > claim
> > > > > that we are not in recession and that we will continue to have
> positive
> > > GDP
> > > > > and turn around anytime soon. The airline industry is the engine
of
> our
> > > > > economy and it is all but devastated by this tragedy. Even if
the
> govt
> > > > > gives money to airlines there are many people who will never fly
> again
> > > and
> > > > > the corporations will start using video conferencing with
> interactive
> > > > > internet hook ups ... it's safer and cheaper in this kind of
> economy.
> > > Those
> > > > > that believe in cycles can see that when the bigger cycles are all
> > > pointing
> > > > > up and a smaller one turns down short term you get a correction..
> when
> > > many
> > > > > of the larger bigger cycles are all turning down and you have
> something
> > > > > like this happen along with war that is likely to effect energy
> > > prices....
> > > > > it spells disaster
> > > > > I would guess that the govt is orchestrating an attempt to keep
the
> > > market
> > > > > up or at a minimum from unraveling Monday morning....but I don't
> > > believe
> > > > > that any amount of manipulation or short term flooding market with
> money
> > > can
> > > > > change the long term trend.
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Michael Ferguson" <wl7bdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 10:53 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Dorothy,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Our collective tragedy is several orders of magnitude outside
any
> norm
> > > we
> > > > > > are familiar with, the energy is palpable, and normal. I am
quite
> > > curious
> > > > > > about the coming week's activity. We entered an era when the
> financial
> > > > > > markets are not the biggest story of the day, and when the
outcome
> of
> > > the
> > > > > > biggest story of the day will move the markets. Perhaps the dog
> will
> > > go
> > > > > back
> > > > > > to wagging the tail.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ;-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Michael
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Michael.. this group stands no chance with an Alaskan and an
> > > ex-Alaskan
> > > > > > > whose heart is still in Alaska making posts..... :-) I'm
sure
> that
> > > we
> > > > > > all
> > > > > > > will be glad come Monday when I for one hope this thread will
go
> > > back to
> > > > > > > "market tradable posts"..........
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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