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The tests indicate that it is a safe burial based on
the half life of the radioactive material involved. That's as close to a
guarantee that you will get and is safer and with odds that are better than
crossing the street. Do you have data to dispute the claim made by
the LLNL scientists? As for common sense it says you accept experts
comments unless you have an objective basis for rejection.
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Dorothy
Carter
To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 10:52
PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/
Oil
I don't claim to be the expert on the topic..
I just have stated the obvious that
there is no guarantee of any safe way to
bury this type of material that is known to glow for 50-100 yrs....... Common
sense is part of knowledge vs what someone wants to sell
you........
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wavemechanic
To: <A
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001
10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/
Oil
Do your homework. Cynicism does not replace
knowledge.
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<A title=dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx
href="mailto:dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx";>Dorothy Carter
To: <A
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001
10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/
Oil
I won't be here in 50 or 100 yrs....
it's like the construction worker who digs in an area before
finding out that utility line is buried there... In 50 - 100 yrs..... do
you leave notes as to where these are burried???
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<A title=wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>wavemechanic
To: <A
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001
10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/
Oil
Read the literature and you will see all of
the information. Not to worry, you will not be blown
up.
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<A title=dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx
href="mailto:dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx";>Dorothy K. Carter
To: <A
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 15,
2001 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your
colors/ Oil
for how many years???? which
generation does it blow up on???????????
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<A title=wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>wavemechanic
To: <A
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 15,
2001 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your
colors/ Oil
There are tests (chemical, radiation
damage, etc.) that qualify it for LT burial in salt caves,
etc.
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<A title=dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx
href="mailto:dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx";>Dorothy K. Carter
To: <A
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 15,
2001 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your
colors/ Oil
Bill:As far as burial
goes// Please tell me about the tests that this product has
passed..... 50 yrs? 100yrs???
I think you get my
point...... or if a heavy fishing
boat or submarine hits it what kind of blow can it
take...... Remember Architects who built the WTC built it to
withstand small planes hitting it...... when dealing with this
type of life threatning material one has to expect the un
expected...
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<A title=wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>wavemechanic
To: <A
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September
15, 2001 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your
colors/ Oil
There are ways to go. For
example, Lawrence Livermore has developed a
non-leachable ceramic material that is suitable for
containment and subsequent burial. It has been
patented and put on the shelf in order to satisfy certain
industrial interests. Campaign money rules for now, but
like reactors the technology is there when
needed.
Bill
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<A title=dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx
href="mailto:dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx";>Dorothy Carter
To: <A
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September
15, 2001 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show
your colors/ Oil
Yes, and the same greenies
that we use to see in the airports hugging trees and hating
nukes are now embracing nuclear over oil....... how short our
memories are. France and other countries have
successfully used nuclear without incident...... the bigger
issue is what do you do with the waste.... if you put it into
the Atlantic or pacific ocean then someday you better not
order Salmon dinner or Halibut steak as Halibut are
bottom fish..... so while we may have to resort in the interim
to nuclear plants we are creating a problem for the next
generation as far as disposing of the waste... somehow the big
bad oil companies don't seem like such
villains................
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<A title=wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>wavemechanic
To: <A
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday,
September 15, 2001 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show
your colors/ Oil
Dorothy:
Several years ago, the DoE was
advised to maintain expertise in nuclear energy so that when
the first city goes cold and dark the country would not have
to reinvent the wheel in order to get going. Looks
like we are just about there.
Bill
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<A title=dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx
href="mailto:dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx";>Dorothy K.
Carter
To: <A
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday,
September 15, 2001 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [RT]
show your colors/ Oil
AMEN....Up until 1 yr ago... I lived in
Anchorage Alaska for 27yrs. and itis taking this
disaster to get the greenies to figure out the importance
ofhaving domestic oil supply vs being so dependant on
foreign oil.. It hasbeen a smart decision made my U.S.
govt to import foreign oil while theprice of crude oil
is was low priced and to save ours for a time when
theprice would be high. It is apparant that ..
that time is possibly upon us.I can assure you that
the pipeline does no harm to the environment... infact
the grass and voilage around and under the pipeline
flourishes from thewarmth... and the caribou migrate
close to the pipeline because of thewarmth...
Alaskans during the last oil embargo use to have a saying
towardthe people in the lower 48 who were anti Alaskan
oil development..... "letthe bas----ds freeze in the
dark".. well folks... it appears that.... thattime
might be upon us if we can't get the politicians to
understand theimportance of having ability to develop
our natural resources and to havethe refineries to
bring the product to the consumer.....----- Original
Message -----From: "Gila Brock" <<A
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<<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent:
Saturday, September 15, 2001 3:52 PMSubject: Re: [RT]
show your colors/ Oil> This article was
written by Joseph Farah, an Arab-American journalist,
not> an Israeli:>> The Wakeup
Call>> Joseph Farah> September 13,
2001>> America got its long-awaited,
long-anticipated and long-dreaded
wakeupcall.>> The terror war came home
in a big way Tuesday, Sept. 11.>> Everything
has changed. Nothing will be the same,
again.>> Just look at the impact the
slaughter and destruction had on George W.Bush>
and Colin Powell, for instance.>> For
months, as Israel has faced, on a daily basis, similar
terrorincidents> carried out by people living
within its very borders, Bush and Powell have> told
the Israelis over and over again: "Show restraint.
Negotiate. Don'tuse> excessive force. Don't
retaliate. Break the cycle of violence.">>
Yet, within hours of the blitzkrieg attack on the World
Trade Center and> Pentagon and the dramatic
hijacking of four airliners, the
Bush-Powelltune> had changed.>>
There was no talk of restraint. There was no talk of
negotiation. Therewas> no worry about excessive
force. There was a promise of retaliation.
Andwe,> as a nation, were assured that we would
not lay down in hopes theattackers> would be
satisfied with their blood toll.>> Bush, in
fact, asserted he would hold any nation harboring the
terrorists> accountable for their actions. Israel
has been coaxed and bullied by the> U.S. to do
precisely the opposite.>> Now the U.S.
administration says it is outraged and is determined
to> "punish" those responsible for "the attack on
freedom.">> I'm glad to hear it. And, far be
it for me to question the sudden good> judgment
being shown in Washington. But it's illustrative of what I
have> been saying for the last year. The U.S. has
been asking Israel to maintain> an untenable course
of inaction. In fact, Washington has helped to
ensure> that terrorism would spread beyond the
Middle East to the shores of theU.S.> through
its shaky, equivocal, timid, impotent, weak, half-way
measures in> the face of Israel's constant battle
with terror.>> Does Bush really get it? Will
he follow through on his own promise? Willhis>
demands on Israel change? Does he plan to follow his own
advice?>> Who knows? Time will tell. But
Americans would do well to remember this> moment -
to reflect on the pain, to recall this mourning. This is
what> Israel has been enduring in its own less
dramatic way - day after day,drip> after drip,
explosion after bloody explosion.>> Let me
go further. We hear many pundits and administration
spokesmennaming> names - Sudan, Afghanistan,
Iran, Iraq. Yet, I haven't heard a one of them>
mention the home state of the chief suspect - Osama bin
Laden.>> He's not an Afghani, by the way.
He's a Saudi - and that's where hissupport>
comes from. That's where his money comes from. That's his
lifeline -> oil-rich, "moderate" Saudi
Arabia.>> Is Washington prepared to issue
ultimatums to Mecca? If not, why not?>> The
answer, of course, is oil - which is why as a matter of
national> strategic defense, America needs to do
what is necessary to achieve energy> independence
as quickly as possible. Wars do tend to get messy, you
know.> And America has the natural resources to be
independent of Mideast oil.>> To do so,
however, we've got to decide as a nation whether we are
more> scared of radical environmentalists or
radical Muslims. That's the choice> before
us.>> In a very real sense, we can look at
the tens of thousands of casualtiesin>
Tuesday's horror as casualties of the radical
environmentalists, who have> persuaded Americans
they would be better off dependent on foreign oil
than> on marring the landscape or causing undue
stress in the elk.>> It's time to get
serious, folks. This is war. We don't fight wars
with> people who control our vital natural
resources. But we may have to fight a> war with the
people supplying us with oil. What are we going to do
about> that?>> Americans may be
called to sacrifice. I think they're ready for such
acall.> They watched the devastation on TV
Tuesday. They will rise to theoccasion -> if
their leaders in Washington ask them to do
so.>> It's a time for sacrifices. That means
even the elk in Alaska may need to> lose a few
acres of real estate for the greater good - saving the
lives of>
Americans.>>>> ----- Original
Message -----> From: Daniel Goncharoff <<A
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To: <<A
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Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:39 PM>
Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/
Oil>>> > In the interest of
helping people to know their enemy better, I want
to> > express my opinion based on research over
the last year that the main> > 'provocation' the
US has committed against Islam is its continued>
> presence in Saudi Arabia, which is seen as hallowed
ground by Muslims.> >> > I take this
from translations of speeches by Osama Bin Laden, which
are> > much more available from European
sources, eg the UK press, then they> > are from
US sources.> >> > Many Americans are
perhaps deceived by the focus in the US press on>
> other Arab nations that are extremely vocal in their
opposition to> > Israel and, accordingly, to its
strong ally the US. Most of these> > governments
are, in fact, supportive of the US due to our protection
of> > Kuwait against Iraq, but they are not
democracies, and therefore also> > allow
anti-American feelings among their (mostly down-trodden)
people to> > continue bubbling up, diverting
attention from their own regimes.> >>
> Regards> > DanG> >>
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