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So they run of off natural gas which does not
totally replace energy..... I know one of the auto makers has cars that
switch back and forth.. when you pass or need speed the gasoline kicks in..
if you are just driving around town then electricity or whatever is
being used.........
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BobR
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Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 10:10
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Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/
Oil
Los Angeles Water and Power is installing
fuel cells now that run off of natural gas. The State of Ca is running
fuel cell busses.
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<A href="mailto:dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx";
title=dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx>Dorothy Carter
To: <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 7:02
PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/
Oil
Correct me if I am wrong Norman but
not at it's level of current development... It is not developed to the
point where an entire city can run off of fuel cells where as Nuclear
is ....The point of bringing up nuclear by one of the individuals
was that if we don't have enough electricity as the Calif situation that
building a nuclear power plant may be the quickest solution.
Someday when the R & D has brought a product using fuel cells that is
more economic and can replace the other prominent sources of energy
used today then it will start taking away market
share...
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title=nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Norman Winski
To: <A
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title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001
10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/
Oil
DC,
I did read it and was reminding you
that this was a far better option.
Cheers,
Norman
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title=dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx>Dorothy K. Carter
To: <A
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title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001
9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/
Oil
Norman If you read post below
there was no mention of fuel cells....I was talking about Nuclear not
fuel cells....... :-)
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title=nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Norman Winski
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Sent: Saturday, September 15,
2001 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your
colors/ Oil
Dorothy,
The only waste product from
hydrogen fuel cells is water vapor.
Cheers,
Norman
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title=dorothy.carter@xxxxxxxx>Dorothy Carter
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title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 15,
2001 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your
colors/ Oil
Yes, and the same greenies that we
use to see in the airports hugging trees and hating nukes are now
embracing nuclear over oil....... how short our memories are.
France and other countries have successfully used nuclear without
incident...... the bigger issue is what do you do with the waste....
if you put it into the Atlantic or pacific ocean then someday you
better not order Salmon dinner or Halibut steak as Halibut are
bottom fish..... so while we may have to resort in the interim to
nuclear plants we are creating a problem for the next generation as
far as disposing of the waste... somehow the big bad oil companies
don't seem like such villains................
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title=wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wavemechanic
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Sent: Saturday, September 15,
2001 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your
colors/ Oil
Dorothy:
Several years ago, the DoE was advised
to maintain expertise in nuclear energy so that when the first
city goes cold and dark the country would not have to reinvent the
wheel in order to get going. Looks like we are just about
there.
Bill
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title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September
15, 2001 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] show your
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AMEN....Up until 1 yr ago... I lived in Anchorage
Alaska for 27yrs. and itis taking this disaster to get the
greenies to figure out the importance ofhaving domestic oil
supply vs being so dependant on foreign oil.. It hasbeen a
smart decision made my U.S. govt to import foreign oil while
theprice of crude oil is was low priced and to save ours for
a time when theprice would be high. It is apparant
that .. that time is possibly upon us.I can assure you that
the pipeline does no harm to the environment... infact the
grass and voilage around and under the pipeline flourishes from
thewarmth... and the caribou migrate close to the pipeline
because of thewarmth... Alaskans during the last oil
embargo use to have a saying towardthe people in the lower
48 who were anti Alaskan oil development..... "letthe
bas----ds freeze in the dark".. well folks... it appears
that.... thattime might be upon us if we can't get the
politicians to understand theimportance of having ability to
develop our natural resources and to havethe refineries to
bring the product to the consumer.....----- Original Message
-----From: "Gila Brock" <<A
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<<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent:
Saturday, September 15, 2001 3:52 PMSubject: Re: [RT] show
your colors/ Oil> This article was written by
Joseph Farah, an Arab-American journalist, not> an
Israeli:>> The Wakeup Call>> Joseph
Farah> September 13, 2001>> America got its
long-awaited, long-anticipated and long-dreaded
wakeupcall.>> The terror war came home in a
big way Tuesday, Sept. 11.>> Everything has
changed. Nothing will be the same, again.>> Just
look at the impact the slaughter and destruction had on George
W.Bush> and Colin Powell, for
instance.>> For months, as Israel has faced, on a
daily basis, similar terrorincidents> carried out by
people living within its very borders, Bush and Powell
have> told the Israelis over and over again: "Show
restraint. Negotiate. Don'tuse> excessive force.
Don't retaliate. Break the cycle of violence.">>
Yet, within hours of the blitzkrieg attack on the World Trade
Center and> Pentagon and the dramatic hijacking of four
airliners, the Bush-Powelltune> had
changed.>> There was no talk of restraint. There
was no talk of negotiation. Therewas> no worry about
excessive force. There was a promise of retaliation.
Andwe,> as a nation, were assured that we would not
lay down in hopes theattackers> would be satisfied
with their blood toll.>> Bush, in fact, asserted
he would hold any nation harboring the terrorists>
accountable for their actions. Israel has been coaxed and
bullied by the> U.S. to do precisely the
opposite.>> Now the U.S. administration says it is
outraged and is determined to> "punish" those responsible
for "the attack on freedom.">> I'm glad to hear
it. And, far be it for me to question the sudden good>
judgment being shown in Washington. But it's illustrative of
what I have> been saying for the last year. The U.S. has
been asking Israel to maintain> an untenable course of
inaction. In fact, Washington has helped to ensure> that
terrorism would spread beyond the Middle East to the shores of
theU.S.> through its shaky, equivocal, timid,
impotent, weak, half-way measures in> the face of
Israel's constant battle with terror.>> Does Bush
really get it? Will he follow through on his own promise?
Willhis> demands on Israel change? Does he plan to
follow his own advice?>> Who knows? Time will
tell. But Americans would do well to remember this>
moment - to reflect on the pain, to recall this mourning. This
is what> Israel has been enduring in its own less
dramatic way - day after day,drip> after drip,
explosion after bloody explosion.>> Let me go
further. We hear many pundits and administration
spokesmennaming> names - Sudan, Afghanistan, Iran,
Iraq. Yet, I haven't heard a one of them> mention the
home state of the chief suspect - Osama bin
Laden.>> He's not an Afghani, by the way. He's a
Saudi - and that's where hissupport> comes from.
That's where his money comes from. That's his lifeline ->
oil-rich, "moderate" Saudi Arabia.>> Is Washington
prepared to issue ultimatums to Mecca? If not, why
not?>> The answer, of course, is oil - which is
why as a matter of national> strategic defense, America
needs to do what is necessary to achieve energy>
independence as quickly as possible. Wars do tend to get messy,
you know.> And America has the natural resources to be
independent of Mideast oil.>> To do so, however,
we've got to decide as a nation whether we are more>
scared of radical environmentalists or radical Muslims. That's
the choice> before us.>> In a very real
sense, we can look at the tens of thousands of
casualtiesin> Tuesday's horror as casualties of the
radical environmentalists, who have> persuaded Americans
they would be better off dependent on foreign oil than>
on marring the landscape or causing undue stress in the
elk.>> It's time to get serious, folks. This is
war. We don't fight wars with> people who control our
vital natural resources. But we may have to fight a> war
with the people supplying us with oil. What are we going to do
about> that?>> Americans may be called to
sacrifice. I think they're ready for such acall.>
They watched the devastation on TV Tuesday. They will rise to
theoccasion -> if their leaders in Washington ask
them to do so.>> It's a time for sacrifices. That
means even the elk in Alaska may need to> lose a few
acres of real estate for the greater good - saving the lives
of> Americans.>>>> -----
Original Message -----> From: Daniel Goncharoff <<A
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To: <<A
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Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:39 PM> Subject: Re:
[RT] show your colors/ Oil>>> > In the
interest of helping people to know their enemy better, I want
to> > express my opinion based on research over the
last year that the main> > 'provocation' the US has
committed against Islam is its continued> > presence
in Saudi Arabia, which is seen as hallowed ground by
Muslims.> >> > I take this from translations
of speeches by Osama Bin Laden, which are> > much more
available from European sources, eg the UK press, then
they> > are from US sources.> >> >
Many Americans are perhaps deceived by the focus in the US press
on> > other Arab nations that are extremely vocal in
their opposition to> > Israel and, accordingly, to its
strong ally the US. Most of these> > governments are,
in fact, supportive of the US due to our protection of>
> Kuwait against Iraq, but they are not democracies, and
therefore also> > allow anti-American feelings among
their (mostly down-trodden) people to> > continue
bubbling up, diverting attention from their own regimes.>
>> > Regards> > DanG> >>
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