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Norman,
My message was certainly not intended to put your considerable work
into question. And you are 100% right by pointing the rule of
inversion; I in effect noticed that beknown patterns when presenting
an inversion, are usualy more powerful than the original one.
The Jupiter-Uranus Trine intervening the same week of the low of 1987
crash was a terrific buy point, at least for the people with the gut
to enter the market after such disaster.
Carl
--- In realtraders@xxxx, "Norman Winski" <nwinski@xxxx> wrote:
> Carl,
>
> The market must set up right in order to get the expected turn.
Was there
> a big bear decline into July 1987, three months in advance of
Jupiter -
> Uranus, to set up a big rally, as we had into March 2001? NO!! The
market
> was in a mini bubble rally into late August 1987. So, here we have
one of
> the few exceptions and the market action would have warned you to
beware. On
> the other hand, if you are open to the possibility of an inversion,
as the
> setup indicated, then forecasting the turn within four days on an
average
> 40.5 month works out to an accuracy in time of .996755. Anyone who
trades
> should be aware of the rule of exception which says that when a
reliable
> rule or pattern is broken, it is broken in a very big way. This has
been
> found in the distribution of matter in the universe and certainly
applies to
> market behavior. Have you ever noticed failed technical patterns
such as a
> failed head & shoulders? They usually generate a much bigger move
than what
> would be expected for the normal pattern.
>
> Copper has been one of the most reliable markets for the Jupiter -
Uranus
> pattern. My original research into this area began with copper
prices. I
> don't remember Jupiter -Uranus ever not working with Copper and I
have made
> very nice money over the past 30 years with this. However, when I
looked at
> the price pattern for Copper back in March, I didn't think it was a
very
> good setup for a buy, as it was not very oversold and had too much
down side
> risk. The result is that while the stock market has rallied into
this
> aspect, my most reliable market, Copper went down. It didn't cost
me a cent,
> because I didn't play it. If Copper has a panic sell into June 19-
22, I will
> look to go long, because that will be an obvious inversion. You
can't trade
> these cycles in blind isolation. They don't always follow the ideal
model.
> However, if you are aware of their occasional tricks, one can avoid
the
> pitfalls and turn lemons into lemonade.
>
> Before giving up, you may want to go back over the past 100 years
of DJIA
> data vs. the Jupiter - Uranus pattern and see if there is any
pattern that
> can be used to make money. I know that I would never risk my money
until I
> did the research and saw the results myself.
>
> Regards,
>
> Norman
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carl V" <carl.vanhaesendonck@xxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 4:59 AM
> Subject: [RT] Re: Lunar Cycles and Cosmic Influences on the Market
>
>
> Chris,
>
> This is really interpelling ! I thought a trine between Jupiter and
> Uranus, the 2 money and wealth related planets, was one of the most
> powerful (and positive) aspects for the financial markets. And
> indeed, you are right: 4 days after October crash low, there was a
> perfect Jupiter-Uranus trine !!!
>
> This will feed the arguments of the astro contras ! And the Pros
will
> perhaps argue that on October 18, there was a Jupiter-Sun opposition
> that erased the upcoming trine effect ?
> Anyway, I become more and more doubtful about these techniques.
>
> Thanks for this useful observation.
>
> Carl
>
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