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Scot,
Thanks for the work. I would like to propose the 
set of definitions I use in measuring the reliability and accuracy of my 
forecast methods.
First, a turn is defined as confirmed by a 
 close below the low of the nearest highest high day(for high pivots) or 
above the high of the nearest lowest low day (for low pivots).The pivot date is 
the date of the highest high or lowest low.
If a pivot occurs near the forecast date, count the 
days (+or -) between the forecast date and the actual pivot date.Add their 
absolute values and divide by the number of pivots. This defines the accuracy of 
the technique in trading days. The reliability of the technique is measured by 
dividing the number of actual pivots by the number of forecasted 
pivots.
My methods currently give accuracy of +/- one 
trading day and reliability of about 70%. I believe this is the order of 
magnitude necessary to develop a profitable trading system from the forecasting 
information.
Jim White
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  Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 9:14 AM
  Subject: Re: [RT] Mars In Taurus
  
  I 'tested' the below dates for market turns.  The test 
  is fairly subjective, as we are missing several major parts of the 
  equation:  what is defined as a market turn, how close to the date must 
  the market turn, how large a move must be produced after said market 
  turn?  For what it is worth, here is the data I gathered on the Live 
  Cattle futures contract, which I believe was the basis for the original 
  example.  I only have data from 1976 forward.  The moves are 
  measured close to close.
   
  Nothing-  I could not make any argument for a turning 
  point for 5 of the 13 dates, 7/12/90,  6/14/92, 5/23/94, 5/2/96, 
  4/13/98.
   
  Dead On-  4/25/81.  The market closed at 7077.5 
  and dropped 637.5 points or 9.01% over the next 20 days.  I find this to 
  be a large move in which nearly any entry strategy around the date would 
  produce a good winner.  
   
  Close to a Significant Turn-  I 
  found two dates, 4/5/83 and 6/6/77, to  be withing 11 and 7 
  days respectively of fairly major turns.  The 6/6/77 date produced a 
  rally of 8.55%.  (The market dropped 5.87% from the Taurus day until the 
  bottom.)  The top 11 days after the 4/5/83 date was major.
   
  Minor Rally- 2 of 13, 5/16/79 and 3/15/85, had minor moves 
  of 290 and 195 begin on the specified day.
   
  2/20/87 had a 152.5 point drop begin on 
2/23/87.
  1/19/89 had a 342.5 point rally begin two days 
  later.
  3/23/00 had a significant top 6 days later.
   
  In my subjective opinion 4 of the 13 days produced tradable 
  moves within an acceptable window.  I doubt one could create a set of 
  trading rules, even in hindsight, that would be able to trade these 13 days 
  profitable.  Perhaps, they could be useful if one looked for a major turn 
  within two weeks of the date.
   
  Please, take these very elementry results for the very 
  little they are worth.  I did not see a significant amount of large turns 
  associated with these dates; however, someone else may.  One can not do a 
  study like this without a definition of an extreme, a turn, a timeframe 
  etc.?  If someone would care to post his definitions of those 
  things, then I would be glad to test them.  If I used mine, the turn 
  would have to come on the day or the day after and would need to produce a 
  move of >200 points.  Given those parameters, 2 of the 13 days 
  produced "winning" trades.  Again, given other parameters or filters 
  perhaps those results could be greatly improved. 
   
  sb
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    Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 4:42 
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    Subject: [RT] Mars In Taurus
    
    For anyone wanting to research Mars in Taurus, 
    hopefully, here are the dates:
    The times are about 5 hours late, but I don't 
    think that will make much difference.
      
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