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[RT] Re: Gator - AGet and Tradestation



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Thank Guy, but the signals and systems given there have some problems 
with Prosuite: for unknown reason, they worked probably well under 
Tradestation 4.0, but no longer in actual version...



--- In realtraders@xxxx, Guy Hacha <guy.hacha@xxxx> wrote:
> Hi Carl,
> 
> Go to this link and you find the EL code for most of it.
> 
>          http://home.t-online.de/home/UWKaestner/
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Guy
> 
> 
> At 12:24 12/02/2001 +0000, you wrote:
> >Don,
> >
> >I have to thank you: I use A-Get for years and read Williams books,
> >but it never came to my mind that it was indeed so easy to plot the
> >Gator 3-lines on Get. I will do immediately !!
> >On the other hand, I am desperately trying to build a complete
> >Williams 5-dimensions system in Easy Language. I think I have now 
the
> >7 signals OK, with excellent theoretical results, but the problem
> >lies in putting them together in one system: then the % are 
dropping
> >dramatically...
> >
> >If some EL experts could help, I would be happy to forward him with
> >my separated "chaos" signals to see what he could do.
> >
> >Carl Vanhaesendonck
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In realtraders@xxxx, "Don Ewers" <dbewers@xxxx> wrote:
> > > John, all that are interested in the Gator, I piece together 
the re-
> >posts
> > > (thanks all) in  I believe the correct order and attached the
> >original gif.
> > > Hope it helps someone make some $$.
> > > Enough said.
> > > don ewers
> > >
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Don Ewers" <dbewers@xxxx>
> > > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 6:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [RT] New Trading Dimensions
> > >
> > > I use the "gator" extensively in my short and long term 
trading. In
> >my
> > > opinion an excellent method to stay on the right side of the 
market.
> > >
> > > I would second the thought that one can always gain adopting
> >interesting
> > > ideas found in many systems.
> > >
> > > The "and don't feed the gator" statement has kept me out of 
trouble,
> > > many a time. A great visual tool in my opinion. I have and would
> >recommend
> > > the
> > > book
> > > don ewers
> > >
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "B.Tharp" <bulldog5@xxxx>
> > > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 8:41 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [RT] New Trading Dimensions
> > >
> > > Post an example of it , sounds like what I have always seen as a
> >swing
> > > failure ,simple Macd divergence  not to say it is not worth 
looking
> >for
> > > but timing is everything .
> > >
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >
> > > B. Tharp
> > > Here is an example on 60min bonds. The "gator" (Alligator) is
> >represented as
> > > three exponential moving averages (13 offset by 8 (jaw), 8 
offset
> >by 5
> > > (teeth), and 5 offset by 3(lips)) and it is visualized as an 
animal
> >that
> > > sleeps (moving averages inter-twining), wakes up (yawns, 
creating a
> >fractal
> > > pivot) and then begins to feed (moving averages running 
parallel).
> >There is
> > > more to it using a 5/34 oscillator to determine where you are in
> >the big
> > > picture, additional entry (and exit points), but I will leave 
that
> >to the
> > > people who read the book.
> > >
> > > Attached is an example of 60min bonds, which shows three buys 
and
> >one sell
> > > (that failed using stops along a gator line).
> > >
> > > The author's claim that you can look at any chart and in seconds
> >know
> > > whether to buy, sell or do nothing in seconds, as I have stated 
has
> >been a
> > > great visual tool for me.
> > >
> > > The comment, "don't feed the gator" is one where you find your
> >position
> > > opposite and the gator is FEEDING ON YOU.
> > > don ewers
> > >
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >
> > > To: "Real Traders" <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > From: "Don Ewers" <dbewers@xxxx>
> > > Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 15:34:34 -0500
> > > Subject: [RT] Gator
> > >
> > > To finish off the gator, a sell signal today at 100-17, as well 
as a
> > > DiNapoli Double Repo sell signal (good book by the way) at 100-
20
> >(not
> > > shown), would have put traders short. Also a negative DMI  cross
> >today in
> > > the 1020 hour also yet another caution at least short term.
> > >
> > > I am not sure of the 1-2-3 count down (shown on the Advanced GET
> >chart) so
> > > ignore at the moment, it could also be an ABC with a "hammer"
> >bottom in
> > > place.
> > >
> > > Anyway a trading opportunity and something to watch if you were
> >tempted to
> > > go long in those areas. Can they fail, of course they can, 
that's
> >where
> > > money management comes in, and a failure also tells you
> >something . .
> > > (notice
> > > what followed the sell signal).
> > >
> > > And always, always, remember "don't feed the gator" unless you
> >enjoy being
> > > gator meat.
> > > don ewers
> > >
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Richard" <rparrbird@xxxx>
> > > To: "Don Ewers" <dbewers@xxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 7:10 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [RT] Gator
> > >
> > > Don,  OK.  You got me.  I can't figure out what constitutes
> >a "yawn".
> > > Also somehow I missed the name and author of the book that 
contains
> > > this.  Thanks for any help you might throw my way.
> > >
> > > Rich Parrott
> > >
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >
> > > Richard,
> > > What is a yawn . . . Ahhhhhhhhh . .... just kidding.
> > >
> > > First Bill Williams wrote the book New Trading Dimensions which
> >someone else
> > > inquired about (as well as Trading Chaos), regarding the 
Investors
> >Dream
> > > software he sells, that where this all started. I simply 
replied I
> >have
> > > found parts to be useful.
> > >
> > > Regarding a yawn, it is a "fractal", which he uses. It is 
basically
> >a pivot,
> > > which he defines as a high or a low surrounded by two bars on 
each
> >side that
> > > are higher or lower than the pivot. There are various patterns
> >which are
> > > well defined in the book (like when the pivot high or low has
> >several bars
> > > at the same high and low), but just stick with the basic
> >definition. Now, a
> > > yawn is a fractal that occurs when the displaced moving averages
> >cross and
> > > ideally inter-twine. It can be inside the mouth  (between the 
lips
> >(green)
> > > and the jaw (blue)) or ideally outside it. The key is when a
> >horizontal line
> > > is drawn from it the subsequent intersection happens outside the
> >mouth. That
> > > is your buy/sell point, one tic above/below that depending on 
the
> >direction.
> > > I drew a red arrow on the last gif showing the sell today. By 
the
> >way the
> > > teeth are red, appropriately.
> > >
> > > I mis-spoke on my earlier post regarding the sell in the middle 
of
> >the chart
> > > by the way, there is a sell fractal but notice it was never
> >subsequently
> > > taken out, so no short would have been initiated. A total of 
five
> >yawns,
> > > four were triggered and four were profitable, not bad.
> > > don ewers
> > >
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >
> >
> >
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> 
> Guy Hacha
> Belgium
> email: guy.hacha@xxxx


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