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<DIV><FONT size=2>I agree with Ira. From what I have seen so far the
advisories are only as good as the trader behind the advice and like any trader,
they will go through up's and down's like anybody else. The problem is
when using an advisory, is that when the market changes and the advisory is off
on their calls, you have nothing to fall back on. Or worse yet, you dont
have a true understanding of why your losing in the market. When you truly
learn it, you then know why u r doing something and why u r not doing
something. Yes you can learn from their experience in the market, things
such as, when to play breaks or fade rallies. Or like the market
tends to be quiet around lunch time. These little things can keep you from
making certain mistakes, but one thing I still live by is that nothing is for
certain in the market, for every thing somebody says about the market, I know
that the total opposite can also happen. Work to keep your method very
simple, control your losses, watch your stops and stay true to your plan...if
you can do this, the rest falls into place....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Troy</FONT></DIV>
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Ira Tunik </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 27, 2000 12:06
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [RT] Re: S&P Advisory
Services?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Go back to basics and learn how to trade yourself. Most
services are good for a short period of time and then fail when conditions
change. It is your understanding that will make you successful, not
someone's news letter. Ira.
<P>Sean Cassidy wrote:
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<FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Has anyone out there used, or heard of,
preferably used, a real time advisory service for trading the S&P Index?
I have been referred to a site called crash proof advisors but they will be
discontinuing the service soon. I need to shorten the learning curve as much
as possible and this seems to be a good way to do that. Or does anyone have
a better way? We have trade station but think the market commentary you
generally get with these services would help, if it is
right.</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial>Thanks,</FONT> <FONT
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<DIV><FONT face=System size=4><STRONG>one more thing to keep in mind is that
they are in the business to make money from the service, whether you are
profitable with it or not,</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=System><STRONG>and you should find out what kind of account you
would need to trade their way, </STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=System><STRONG>also you might want to ask if he/she/they, are
taking the trades that they are recommending to you, you might be surprised how
many don't.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=System><STRONG> one more point is that the markets aren't
going anywhere, they will be there when your</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=System><STRONG>ready, .</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=System><STRONG> Ted</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [RT] Re: S&P Advisory
Services?</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I agree with Ira. From what I have seen so far the
advisories are only as good as the trader behind the advice and like any
trader, they will go through up's and down's like anybody else. The
problem is when using an advisory, is that when the market changes and the
advisory is off on their calls, you have nothing to fall back on. Or
worse yet, you dont have a true understanding of why your losing in the
market. When you truly learn it, you then know why u r doing something
and why u r not doing something. Yes you can learn from their experience
in the market, things such as, when to play breaks or fade rallies.
Or like the market tends to be quiet around lunch time. These little
things can keep you from making certain mistakes, but one thing I still live
by is that nothing is for certain in the market, for every thing somebody says
about the market, I know that the total opposite can also happen. Work
to keep your method very simple, control your losses, watch your stops and
stay true to your plan...if you can do this, the rest falls into
place....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Troy</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><A
href="mailto:wallst@xxxxxxxx";>wallst@xxxxxxxx</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
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Ira Tunik </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 27, 2000 12:06
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [RT] Re: S&P Advisory
Services?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Go back to basics and learn how to trade yourself. Most
services are good for a short period of time and then fail when conditions
change. It is your understanding that will make you successful, not
someone's news letter. Ira.
<P>Sean Cassidy wrote:
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<FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Has anyone out there used, or heard of,
preferably used, a real time advisory service for trading the S&P
Index? I have been referred to a site called crash proof advisors but they
will be discontinuing the service soon. I need to shorten the learning
curve as much as possible and this seems to be a good way to do that. Or
does anyone have a better way? We have trade station but think the market
commentary you generally get with these services would help, if it is
right.</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial>Thanks,</FONT> <FONT
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Dan Harels wrote:
> Gitanshu,
>
> You refered to work by George Lindsey in one of your recent posts. I have
> looked unsuccessfully for information regarding theories. Can you point me
> to any references or sources?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan,
Encyclopedia of Stock Market Techniques, Investor's Intelligence, 1970,
Larchmont, NY.
Great book! Has about 45 chapters, each one is an essay or market theory by an
expert on that particular approach. This was my primer in Technical Analsysis 30
years ago.
Good Studying,
Norman
>
>
> >From: "Gitanshu Buch" <OnWingsOfEagles@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: OnWingsOfEagles@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [RT] MKT: STKS: Early signs...
> >Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:16:24 -0400
> >
> >Looks like they are beginning to shake the trees and make charts look bad
> >before the markups/markdowns.
> >
> >Semi's under heavy distribution under a benign INTC+MU smokescreen. Look at
> >ADI, ALSC, XLNX, LLTC.
> >Retail: Is this the bottom? They get punished into rising rates, then rally
> >into falling/steady rate anticipation.
> >
> >Watching MER. Currently turning red after rallying off breakout pivot.
> >
> >Aside - if everyone knows its markup time, why doesn't somebody big fade
> >the
> >move?
> >
> >Gitanshu
> >No positions. And a chart for T-Bondo.
> ><< newp0627.gif >>
>
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