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Those numbers work only for those that are sellers of numbers not for traders.
<p>T-Bondtrader wrote:
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<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Sorry,
Ira, forgot to answer your query:</font></font>&nbsp;>You put up and ADX
and a MA and didn't display the numbers you used in their >make-up.&nbsp;
It is obvious from what I saw that you and the indicators are on two >separate
time frames of trading.&nbsp;The ADX was the standard 14 for the Holy Grail,
which I named, and the RSI was also the standard 70/30.&nbsp; Both were
applied to the same 5 min chart, which I reproduced, with the fairly standard
9/18 moving averages for the cross over.&nbsp; Just bog standard stuff,
which you see sold along with fax services, etc.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Bill
Eykyn
<br>www.t-bondtrader.com
<br>"Learn to read the tape"&nbsp;&nbsp;</blockquote>

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<DIV>&gt;Those numbers work only for those that are sellers of numbers not for 
traders</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>My case rests!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Bill Eykyn<BR><A 
href="http://www.t-bondtrader.com";>www.t-bondtrader.com</A><BR>"Learn to read 
the tape"</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  Ira Tunik </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:t-bondtrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=t-bondtrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>T-Bondtrader</A> ; <A 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 09, 2000 9:32 PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RT] Re: Day Trading 
  Indicators</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>. 
  <P>T-Bondtrader wrote: 
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    <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Sorry, Ira, forgot to answer your 
    query:</FONT></FONT>&nbsp;&gt;You put up and ADX and a MA and didn't display 
    the numbers you used in their &gt;make-up.&nbsp; It is obvious from what I 
    saw that you and the indicators are on two &gt;separate time frames of 
    trading.&nbsp;The ADX was the standard 14 for the Holy Grail, which I named, 
    and the RSI was also the standard 70/30.&nbsp; Both were applied to the same 
    5 min chart, which I reproduced, with the fairly standard 9/18 moving 
    averages for the cross over.&nbsp; Just bog standard stuff, which you see 
    sold along with fax services, etc.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Bill Eykyn <BR><A 
    href="http://www.t-bondtrader.com";>www.t-bondtrader.com</A> <BR>"Learn to 
    read the tape"&nbsp;&nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Your case doesn't rest, you are assuming that everyone is using those numbers.&nbsp;
Those that understand what they are doing aren't using those numbers.&nbsp;
Ira
<p>T-Bondtrader wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;>Those numbers work only for those that are
sellers of numbers not for traders&nbsp;My case rests!&nbsp;&nbsp;Bill
Eykyn
<br>www.t-bondtrader.com
<br>"Learn to read the tape"&nbsp;&nbsp;
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----</div>

<div 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
Ira Tunik</div>

<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> T-Bondtrader
; realtraders</div>

<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 09, 2000 9:32 PM</div>

<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RT] Re: Day Trading
Indicators</div>
&nbsp;.
<p>T-Bondtrader wrote:
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<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Sorry,
Ira, forgot to answer your query:</font></font> >You put up and ADX and
a MA and didn't display the numbers you used in their >make-up.&nbsp; It
is obvious from what I saw that you and the indicators are on two >separate
time frames of trading. The ADX was the standard 14 for the Holy Grail,
which I named, and the RSI was also the standard 70/30.&nbsp; Both were
applied to the same 5 min chart, which I reproduced, with the fairly standard
9/18 moving averages for the cross over.&nbsp; Just bog standard stuff,
which you see sold along with fax services, etc.&nbsp;&nbsp; Bill Eykyn
<br>www.t-bondtrader.com
<br>"Learn to read the tape"</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>

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Subject: [RT] Re: Day Trading Indicators
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In that case, do enlighten us and then we can 
compare with price action.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Bill Eykyn<BR><A 
href="http://www.t-bondtrader.com";>www.t-bondtrader.com</A><BR>"Learn to read 
the tape"</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  Ira Tunik </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:<realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> realtraders" 
  title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>&lt;realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt; 
  realtraders</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 09, 2000 11:02 
PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [RT] Re: Day Trading 
  Indicators</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Your case doesn't rest, you are assuming that everyone is using 
  those numbers.&nbsp; Those that understand what they are doing aren't using 
  those numbers.&nbsp; Ira 
  <P>T-Bondtrader wrote: 
  <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE">&nbsp;&gt;Those numbers work only for those that are 
    sellers of numbers not for traders&nbsp;My case rests!&nbsp;&nbsp;Bill Eykyn 
    <BR>www.t-bondtrader.com 
    <BR>"Learn to read the tape"&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    <BLOCKQUOTE 
    style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV>
      <DIV 
      style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
      Ira Tunik</DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
      href="mailto:t-bondtrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
      title=t-bondtrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>T-Bondtrader</A> ; <A 
      href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
      title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders</A></DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 09, 2000 9:32 
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RT] Re: Day Trading 
      Indicators</DIV>&nbsp;. 
      <P>T-Bondtrader wrote: 
      <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE">
        <STYLE></STYLE>
        <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Sorry, Ira, forgot to answer your 
        query:</FONT></FONT> &gt;You put up and ADX and a MA and didn't display 
        the numbers you used in their &gt;make-up.&nbsp; It is obvious from what 
        I saw that you and the indicators are on two &gt;separate time frames of 
        trading. The ADX was the standard 14 for the Holy Grail, which I named, 
        and the RSI was also the standard 70/30.&nbsp; Both were applied to the 
        same 5 min chart, which I reproduced, with the fairly standard 9/18 
        moving averages for the cross over.&nbsp; Just bog standard stuff, which 
        you see sold along with fax services, etc.&nbsp;&nbsp; Bill Eykyn <BR><A 
        href="http://www.t-bondtrader.com";>www.t-bondtrader.com</A> <BR>"Learn 
        to read the 
tape"</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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<DIV><FONT size=2><EM>i have material that dates 1890, 20 stocks..... first 
72.06, high-june 4 at 78.38,low-dec 8 at 58.10, close 
61.96-14.1%</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><EM>1890 provides the first full year of statistics for a dow 
jones average that can be tracked until year 2000. the index, the 20 stock 
average can be traced directly to todays transportation 
average.</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><EM>the exchange was formally organized in 1817.the most 
reliable journal of record was the weekly "Commercial&amp;Financial Chronicle", 
44pages in its first issue of 1890, the "Wall Street Journal", was a 4 page 
daily.</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><EM>The Chronicle published 1/4/1890 carried prices for 
117active issues, of which 81 were rails. the 20 stock average was 18 rails and 
2 industrials..western union and pacific mail.this is teh average tracked untill 
the beginning of seperate Dow Industrials and Rail indices in the year of 
1896.</EM></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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I have been reading about what some of the Stock Market Physicist refer
to as "Power Scales". I think they are referring to something like
Fibonacci or Gann price time relationships. This is a chart of the Oex
(hi, lo, close) back to Dec 1996. This is an update of a chart that
(believe it or not) was constructed a few years ago. I entered the Oex
low for Dec 17. 1996 (347 split adjusted) into a Gann Square. The
horizontal lines are the numbers from the (horizontal) center row of the
Gann Square. 

Ron McEwan
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