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I disagree that it is unworkable. It may be impracticable in today's
society. Anyone who enjoys the public doles will be hard pressed to give it
up, but working toward a more self sufficient populace, coupled with
instilling resposibility with our children, is not impracticable,
impractacle nor undoable. Freedom's just another word for nothing left to
lose? Fight the good fight every minute, every day. Make it worth the
price you pay.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kim Hanson [mailto:hantran2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 9:01 AM
To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [RT] Re: stop paying income taxes
on 4/4/00 6:24 PM, Tom Bowen at trbowen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx was heard to mumble:
> Yes. Michael went right to the root cause.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Knapp" <mknapp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 5:12 PM
> Subject: [RT] RE: Re: stop paying income taxes
>
>
>> If you are not interested in a mini political diatribe, please don't
waste
>> your time with this. I mean to offend no one, but my libratarian
leanings
>> make it near impossible for me to ignore these disussions.
>> Isn't Russia a victum of a total government control gone haywire? We
are
>> moving closer to Russian life because of government that isn't
accountable
>> or in the slightest bit managable. I think the first 100 years of
>> individualism and freedom that our founding fathers set in motion in the
>> late 1700's has proved strong enough to fend off the total intrusion of
>> government up to this point.
>> As for unwillingness to pay taxes, wasn't Thomas Edison the one who
> claimed
>> that it was every Americans right to avoid taxes?
>> As to controling interest in our democracy, I vote, campaign, walk door
to
>> door, argue and cajole with anyone who will listen to me. As yet, I
have
>> made no impact, although living in Chicago, the bastion of machine
> politics,
>> makes it a little harder than beating my head against a cement wall.
>> I think the biggest problem facing us now is the "peoples" unwillingness
> for
>> anything less that total stability. We have given up a LOT of freedoms
in
>> the name of security. By blindly electing any liar and/or cheat to
> office,
>> how does this make us more secure? How does this give us any control
over
>> what we are taxed? What is propogated in the name of progress? What we
> are
>> told? Fool me once...
>> If it ain't broke, don't fix it? I got news for you, it's broke, but
> even
>> car can run on one cylander and no oil for a little while.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kim Hanson [mailto:hantran2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 3:55 PM
>> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [RT] Re: stop paying income taxes
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> on 4/4/00 9:10 AM, Phil Lane at patterntrader@xxxxxxxxxx was heard to
>> mumble:
>>
>>>>
>>>> But, I think anyone who is unwilling to pay the taxes, ought to move
>>>> from the US. Or, stay here but make sure you drive on no roads, take
> no
>>>> medicine that even indirectly came from research supported by the NIH,
>>>> never listen to the weather, drink only water that's not tested by
>>>> government agencies for purity, never read any material from the USDA
>>>> before you farm or trade corn, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Conrad Bowers
>>>
>>> I believe if we took all the things you mentioned and threw in a few
>> others
>>> too it would add up to only about 1/10 the tax we're paying. It's the
>> OTHER
>>> stuff we can do without.
>>>
>>> I will be the first to voluntarily give up my favorite government
> program
>>> (what ever that is) if I could save on taxes. Would anyone like to join
>>> me?????
>>>
>>> rgds phil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> hmmm lets see, no internet, no roads, no uniformity of interstate
> commerce,
>> no defense, I hear they don't pay much taxes in Russia......ever been
>> there?
>>
>> Kim
>>
>>
>>
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hmmm dont want to waste the group space with this topic
suffice it to say that libertarianism is attractive because it is
unworkable, has never existed and likely never will, its a dream of utopia
ultimately it is equal to anarchy
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