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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I've recently switched over from digest format 
in order to receive charts intact.&nbsp; The posts on the GOsc have caught my 
interest, but unfortunately, I have missed most of the preliminary discussion 
that would allow me to fully comprehend what's going on.&nbsp; If anyone could 
repost some of this info, or send it to me directly, it would be most 
appreciated.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Many thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Michael Spencer</FONT></DIV>
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href="mailto:mpspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mpspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> 
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From: "ROBERT ROESKE" <bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [realtraders] GOsc {02}
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:10:05 -0800
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Perhaps this example with&nbsp;today's day session of T bonds 
will help, but first let me say I have never traded T bonds.&nbsp; I have seen 
and experienced a lot of price action in equities and indicies.&nbsp; The GOsc 
represents what I perceive as a convenient&nbsp;means to&nbsp;measure movement 
on an intraday basis regardless of the issue.&nbsp; As we all know mkts cycle, 
breakout, and trend.&nbsp; That is pretty general, sounds simplistic, and has 
been said a zillion times.&nbsp;&nbsp;A few of a daytraders concerns&nbsp;are 
the day's range and retracement targets and an easy way to monitor them for 
trading purposes.&nbsp; One of Gann's quotes is that price tends to make 50% 
retracements.&nbsp; He also said price targets the established swing High and 
Low within a few percent and suggested what have become Gann numbers and he also 
suggested dividing the price range up into percentages for 
support/resistance.&nbsp; He was most likely referring to days and weeks and not 
minutes and hours, but who knows for sure, can't say as I honestly haven't read 
more than a few paraphrased paragraphs of his work.&nbsp; Fractal nature of 
markets apply on all time frames.&nbsp; Many of the standard canned indicators 
in today's software use the previous day or days data for calculating the next 
day's support/resistance pivots such as the classical pivots.&nbsp; That muddies 
the picture IMHO.&nbsp; Other ways use statistics.&nbsp; Both are illustrated on 
the attached StatP2.gif.&nbsp;&nbsp;It is possible to know within a fraction of 
a point where probable price resistance/support will be found.&nbsp; See the 
w.tradehard.com site for help on that.&nbsp; Others use channels based on 
averages of highs, lows, close, etc.&nbsp; What has been missing in my opinion 
has been a technique closer to the action, modified by the current action 
and&nbsp;and adapts instantly to new range change.&nbsp;&nbsp;When it comes to 
making a dollar today, I would prefer not to look at something like 
Average&nbsp;True Range. I want to know today, has range&nbsp;been established, 
I want to know&nbsp;has it stabelized.&nbsp; I want to know what its personality 
is today and not what it was 21 days ago.&nbsp; Then I want to know what the 
midpoint&nbsp;of that range is and what the retracement targets are and I don't 
want to keep moving a manual retracement tool on the screen.&nbsp; Since the 
market&nbsp;has movement, the midpoint and the&nbsp;retracement targets change 
until the range has stabelized.&nbsp; You may have heard before that the first 
hour of trading is Amature hour.&nbsp; The GOsc chart shows that&nbsp;a&nbsp; 
range is established early in the day by the spread between the High and 
Low.&nbsp; Events&nbsp;later in the day can disrupt the range established early 
in the day, such as today's FOMC discontinuity.&nbsp; In a precursory look at T 
Bonds it appears they follow the 50% retracement rule better than equity 
indicies.&nbsp; T MP is the dynamic midpoint on the GOsc chart.&nbsp; It is also 
the zero line in the detrended price as represented by the GOsc.&nbsp; 
Basically, the MidPoint oscillator renaimed the GOsc illustrates that the 
midpoint provides buy/sell signals and support/resistance with profits taken at 
the H or L and nearby % or gann fraction.&nbsp; If price breaks out of the 
established range, then the 0.382 extension are popular as in the low in bonds 
today as Yesterday's low minus 0.382 of yesterday's range.&nbsp; Price tends to 
bounce between the floor and ceiling until it gets enough energy to reach a new 
level and park there while ownership of the instrument changes.&nbsp; Sort of 
like quantum mechanics.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Have a good one,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>BobR</FONT></DIV>
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  <A href="mailto:mpspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=mpspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>mpspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 16, 1999 1:34 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [realtraders] GOsc {01}</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I've recently switched over from digest format 
  in order to receive charts intact.&nbsp; The posts on the GOsc have caught my 
  interest, but unfortunately, I have missed most of the preliminary discussion 
  that would allow me to fully comprehend what's going on.&nbsp; If anyone could 
  repost some of this info, or send it to me directly, it would be most 
  appreciated.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Many thanks,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Michael Spencer</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><A 
  href="mailto:mpspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mpspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> 
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