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Who wrote this James Taylor or James Carville?
>From: James Taylor <jptaylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: "JW" <JW@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: RE: GEN: MS/JUSTICE DEPT RULING?
>Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 10:56:11 -0800
>
>Put Gates in jail, and throw away the key. He and his monopolistic machine
>makes me sick. "persecution", how dare you say such nonsense. If you had
>followed the trial and the mountain of evidence, and had any common sense,
>you would see just how vile the scumbags at Microsoft are, and you might
>understand why folks like me despise them with so much passion.
>
>The government can't fine or penalize them enough to recouperate the
>damages Microsoft has done to so many lives and businesses. The crimes
>they have caluculatedly commited are numerous, and many are still unknown
>to the gullible, sleeping public.
>
>If there was anything I could do to personally bring these bastards to
>justice, I would do it. My faith in the justice system and the desire for
>people to do the right thing was strengthened, now is time do determine
>just how many laws were broken, and for them to throw the book at them. No
>negotiations, no deals, just hard-nosed fines and break-up of this
>repressive monopoly.
>If it takes 5 more years in the courts, so be it. Gates' cocky attitude
>will serve him well. If I were one of the prosecutors, it would burn in my
>mind as I pursued the case. Fuel to help them put in long hours.
>
>
>
>--------
>At 12:52 AM 11/7/99 -0800, JW wrote:
> >I think this whole persecution of MS by the government is a load of crap.
> >The primary issue was whether or not MS could include a browser (IE)
> >integrated into Win95. All the rest of the "dirt" that was dug up can
>only
> >be related to this question. Should MS be allowed to build and configure
> >their OS to meet perceived market requirements? Or should they be
>required
> >to provide support for a competitor?
> >
> >The market was well on its way to dealing with MS's market share and
> >sometimes questionable business practices via the increasing
>pervasiveness
> >of the internet. With the net, all that's needed is a browser to access
>a
> >net enabled application. And that browser can be running on a PC a Mac,
>a
> >Linux machine, a Palm Pilot, Net Terminal or any other net appliance. As
> >the bandwidth pipe size increases and continues to come down in cost, we
> >will eventually access all of our applications ad-hoc, downloading and
> >running them as we need. Most people will have little use or need for a
> >major OS at home like Windows, Unix, Mac/OS or anything else. Then we
>won't
> >have to worry about GPF type errors, application code updates, viruses,
>etc.
> >
> >I think most sane people would agree that the government, as it presently
> >stands, has exhibited a less than sterling record in terms of vision and
> >innovation. Hell, our tax code gets more unfathomable year by year
>while
> >Congress accomplishes less with each session. Why would anyone want the
> >government to control the makeup or marketing of software? There aren't
>any
> >public safety issues here, like in the automobile, for example. Speaking
>of
> >cars, my car has a big multi-function radio/cassette player/CD embedded
>in
> >the console. I can't change it without rebuilding the whole dashboard.
>Why
> >doesn't Alpine or other independents start a lawsuit against car
> >manufacturers in an attempt to force them to add a standard size radio
>slot
> >for an Alpine radio? Isn't Alpine business being hurt by those car
> >companies that don't provide it an opportunity to offer its product to
> >consumers? Isn't my choice being restricted? What is Janet Reno going
>to
> >do about this <LOL>?
> >
> >Despite the rhetoric of the far left, a government cannot make every
>person
> >and business equal. Similarly, everyone's opportunity cannot be made
>equal
> >nor can a completely flat playing field be provided for everyone. We
>are
> >not all equal and life is not fair.
> >
> >But aren't we all creatures of nature? And hasn't nature proven to be
> >notoriously unfair (species come and go, die out, big animals eat smaller
> >animals, etc.)? If an animal or plant population gets too big
>(figuratively
> >speaking), then nature somehow trims them back through various means
> >(famine, disease, weather, disasters,...). But mankind and governments
> >always seem to think that they can artificially supplant natural rule and
>do
> >a better job. Let natural law rule through the market place. MS would
>have
> >gotten its due through the marketplace.
> >
> >Here is a link that you might want to check out about the MS case:
> >
> >http://www.moraldefense.com/Campaigns/Microsoft/Antitrust_FAQ/default.htm
> >
> >With regards to government and equality, I would highly recommend reading
> >Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.'s 1961 short story titled Harrison Bergeron. I found
>a
> >link to the story on the net at:
> >
> >http://www.crosslink.net/~jbloom/harrison.html
> >
> >JW
> >Copyright © 1999
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:owner-realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Earl Adamy
> >Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 5:54 PM
> >To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: Re: GEN: MS/JUSTICE DEPT RULING?
> >
> >
> >I don't think it is at all funny, but it is long overdue. As an active
> >developer and among the pioneer (Win286) Windows adopters and developers
>at
> >a time when current wisdom held that DesqView would rule the multi-window
> >desktop, I have observed, applauded and criticized Microsoft at close
>range.
> >Microsoft exhibited the best of free market business in wresting the
>desktop
> >from QuarterDeck. Since doing so, they have provided developers and
> >consumers with the benefits of a uniform UI. However they have been
> >relentless in their campaign to insure that no business or developer with
> >which they either competed, or thought they might compete, had the free
> >market opportunity to do the same. The power of the UI vested Microsoft
>with
> >unbridled power ... they have done everything the government claimed and
>a
> >great deal more.
> >
> >Microsoft, does charge what they want to charge - the prices of
>everything
> >else in the PC world have come down many fold while the price of Windows
>has
> >increased, albeit nominally. Microsoft, is a monopolist but no monopolist
> >with half a brain charges so much that they drive customers away.
> >
> >The last thing I want is the Clinton luddites controlling the destiny of
>the
> >software business, but it is the job of the government to insure a truly
> >free market economy and the had failed miserably to provide an
>environment
> >in which Microsoft competitors could survive. I will note one more
> >government free market failing which will come home to roost in future
>years
> >.... mergers are in large measure being driven by lack of business
>pricing
> >power and the desire to curtail global production to more profitable
>levels.
> >Guess what is going to happen when the number of global competitors has
>been
> >significantly winnowed and global corporations deem themselves beyond the
> >anti-trust reach of any one government.
> >
> >Earl
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Howard Hopkins <hehohop@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <joe6964@xxxxxxxx>; <GREHERT@xxxxxxx>
> >Cc: <Proffittak@xxxxxxx>; <chmeyer@xxxxxxxx>; <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 8:30 AM
> >Subject: Re: GEN: MS/JUSTICE DEPT RULING?
> >
> >
> >> Joe,
> >>
> >> You think it's funny that the government is stepping in and forcing
>it's
> >> will into the free market?????? I think it's scary!!
> >>
> >> Windows may not be the best OS around, but MSFT has certainly kept it
> >> affordable. A true monopoly could charge whatever they want because of
> >> inelastic demand.
> >>
> >> Question: Where would we be as a networked society, if in 1980 AAPL
>has
> >> opened up there OS? Would AAPL be the one under
>persecution/prosecution?
> >> What if MSFT hadn't controlled the OS market and there were 5 or more
>OS
> >in
> >> the beginning each with equal market share of pc's OS? A simple
>unified
> >OS
> >> brought about the proliferation of the PC onto almost everyone's
>desktop.
> >>
> >> I beleive without MSFT's dominance we would be years behind where we
>are
> >> now. Bill Gates "ruthless greed" should be applauded not punished but
>if
> >it
> >> is to be punished it should be by the free markets, not Janet Reno's
> >> hinchman.
> >>
> >> Just my thoughts,
> >> Howard
> >>
> >>
> >> >From: Joe Frabosilio <joe6964@xxxxxxxx>
> >> >To: GREHERT@xxxxxxx
> >> >CC: Proffittak@xxxxxxx, chmeyer@xxxxxxxx, realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >Subject: Re: GEN: MS/JUSTICE DEPT RULING?
> >> >Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 07:43:47 -0600
> >> >
> >> >Sorry Jerry,
> >> >
> >> >I got a little missed guided there. Spread a little panic, no I just
> >think
> >> >it
> >> >funny that MSFT finally got hit in the face. Got to do some more
> >research.
> >> >
> >> >Thanks,
> >> >Joe Frabosilio
> >> >
> >> >GREHERT@xxxxxxx wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Now aren't we missing the prices of the 7 baby bells that resulted
> >from
> >> >the
> >> > > break up.
> >> > >
> >> > > Are you trying to spread a little panic?
> >> > >
> >> > > Jerry Rehert
> >> >
> >>
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