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Put Gates in jail, and throw away the key. He and his monopolistic machine
makes me sick. "persecution", how dare you say such nonsense. If you had
followed the trial and the mountain of evidence, and had any common sense,
you would see just how vile the scumbags at Microsoft are, and you might
understand why folks like me despise them with so much passion.
The government can't fine or penalize them enough to recouperate the
damages Microsoft has done to so many lives and businesses. The crimes
they have caluculatedly commited are numerous, and many are still unknown
to the gullible, sleeping public.
If there was anything I could do to personally bring these bastards to
justice, I would do it. My faith in the justice system and the desire for
people to do the right thing was strengthened, now is time do determine
just how many laws were broken, and for them to throw the book at them. No
negotiations, no deals, just hard-nosed fines and break-up of this
repressive monopoly.
If it takes 5 more years in the courts, so be it. Gates' cocky attitude
will serve him well. If I were one of the prosecutors, it would burn in my
mind as I pursued the case. Fuel to help them put in long hours.
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At 12:52 AM 11/7/99 -0800, JW wrote:
>I think this whole persecution of MS by the government is a load of crap.
>The primary issue was whether or not MS could include a browser (IE)
>integrated into Win95. All the rest of the "dirt" that was dug up can only
>be related to this question. Should MS be allowed to build and configure
>their OS to meet perceived market requirements? Or should they be required
>to provide support for a competitor?
>
>The market was well on its way to dealing with MS's market share and
>sometimes questionable business practices via the increasing pervasiveness
>of the internet. With the net, all that's needed is a browser to access a
>net enabled application. And that browser can be running on a PC a Mac, a
>Linux machine, a Palm Pilot, Net Terminal or any other net appliance. As
>the bandwidth pipe size increases and continues to come down in cost, we
>will eventually access all of our applications ad-hoc, downloading and
>running them as we need. Most people will have little use or need for a
>major OS at home like Windows, Unix, Mac/OS or anything else. Then we won't
>have to worry about GPF type errors, application code updates, viruses, etc.
>
>I think most sane people would agree that the government, as it presently
>stands, has exhibited a less than sterling record in terms of vision and
>innovation. Hell, our tax code gets more unfathomable year by year while
>Congress accomplishes less with each session. Why would anyone want the
>government to control the makeup or marketing of software? There aren't any
>public safety issues here, like in the automobile, for example. Speaking of
>cars, my car has a big multi-function radio/cassette player/CD embedded in
>the console. I can't change it without rebuilding the whole dashboard. Why
>doesn't Alpine or other independents start a lawsuit against car
>manufacturers in an attempt to force them to add a standard size radio slot
>for an Alpine radio? Isn't Alpine business being hurt by those car
>companies that don't provide it an opportunity to offer its product to
>consumers? Isn't my choice being restricted? What is Janet Reno going to
>do about this <LOL>?
>
>Despite the rhetoric of the far left, a government cannot make every person
>and business equal. Similarly, everyone's opportunity cannot be made equal
>nor can a completely flat playing field be provided for everyone. We are
>not all equal and life is not fair.
>
>But aren't we all creatures of nature? And hasn't nature proven to be
>notoriously unfair (species come and go, die out, big animals eat smaller
>animals, etc.)? If an animal or plant population gets too big (figuratively
>speaking), then nature somehow trims them back through various means
>(famine, disease, weather, disasters,...). But mankind and governments
>always seem to think that they can artificially supplant natural rule and do
>a better job. Let natural law rule through the market place. MS would have
>gotten its due through the marketplace.
>
>Here is a link that you might want to check out about the MS case:
>
>http://www.moraldefense.com/Campaigns/Microsoft/Antitrust_FAQ/default.htm
>
>With regards to government and equality, I would highly recommend reading
>Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.'s 1961 short story titled Harrison Bergeron. I found a
>link to the story on the net at:
>
>http://www.crosslink.net/~jbloom/harrison.html
>
>JW
>Copyright © 1999
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:owner-realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Earl Adamy
>Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 5:54 PM
>To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: GEN: MS/JUSTICE DEPT RULING?
>
>
>I don't think it is at all funny, but it is long overdue. As an active
>developer and among the pioneer (Win286) Windows adopters and developers at
>a time when current wisdom held that DesqView would rule the multi-window
>desktop, I have observed, applauded and criticized Microsoft at close range.
>Microsoft exhibited the best of free market business in wresting the desktop
>from QuarterDeck. Since doing so, they have provided developers and
>consumers with the benefits of a uniform UI. However they have been
>relentless in their campaign to insure that no business or developer with
>which they either competed, or thought they might compete, had the free
>market opportunity to do the same. The power of the UI vested Microsoft with
>unbridled power ... they have done everything the government claimed and a
>great deal more.
>
>Microsoft, does charge what they want to charge - the prices of everything
>else in the PC world have come down many fold while the price of Windows has
>increased, albeit nominally. Microsoft, is a monopolist but no monopolist
>with half a brain charges so much that they drive customers away.
>
>The last thing I want is the Clinton luddites controlling the destiny of the
>software business, but it is the job of the government to insure a truly
>free market economy and the had failed miserably to provide an environment
>in which Microsoft competitors could survive. I will note one more
>government free market failing which will come home to roost in future years
>.... mergers are in large measure being driven by lack of business pricing
>power and the desire to curtail global production to more profitable levels.
>Guess what is going to happen when the number of global competitors has been
>significantly winnowed and global corporations deem themselves beyond the
>anti-trust reach of any one government.
>
>Earl
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Howard Hopkins <hehohop@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <joe6964@xxxxxxxx>; <GREHERT@xxxxxxx>
>Cc: <Proffittak@xxxxxxx>; <chmeyer@xxxxxxxx>; <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 8:30 AM
>Subject: Re: GEN: MS/JUSTICE DEPT RULING?
>
>
>> Joe,
>>
>> You think it's funny that the government is stepping in and forcing it's
>> will into the free market?????? I think it's scary!!
>>
>> Windows may not be the best OS around, but MSFT has certainly kept it
>> affordable. A true monopoly could charge whatever they want because of
>> inelastic demand.
>>
>> Question: Where would we be as a networked society, if in 1980 AAPL has
>> opened up there OS? Would AAPL be the one under persecution/prosecution?
>> What if MSFT hadn't controlled the OS market and there were 5 or more OS
>in
>> the beginning each with equal market share of pc's OS? A simple unified
>OS
>> brought about the proliferation of the PC onto almost everyone's desktop.
>>
>> I beleive without MSFT's dominance we would be years behind where we are
>> now. Bill Gates "ruthless greed" should be applauded not punished but if
>it
>> is to be punished it should be by the free markets, not Janet Reno's
>> hinchman.
>>
>> Just my thoughts,
>> Howard
>>
>>
>> >From: Joe Frabosilio <joe6964@xxxxxxxx>
>> >To: GREHERT@xxxxxxx
>> >CC: Proffittak@xxxxxxx, chmeyer@xxxxxxxx, realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Subject: Re: GEN: MS/JUSTICE DEPT RULING?
>> >Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 07:43:47 -0600
>> >
>> >Sorry Jerry,
>> >
>> >I got a little missed guided there. Spread a little panic, no I just
>think
>> >it
>> >funny that MSFT finally got hit in the face. Got to do some more
>research.
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Joe Frabosilio
>> >
>> >GREHERT@xxxxxxx wrote:
>> >
>> > > Now aren't we missing the prices of the 7 baby bells that resulted
>from
>> >the
>> > > break up.
>> > >
>> > > Are you trying to spread a little panic?
>> > >
>> > > Jerry Rehert
>> >
>>
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