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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>If it the order goes enters in the first 45 to 
60 minutes after open, as I did this AM, that is supposed to happen quite often, 
even with less frantic days than today.&nbsp; Stocks that I bought puts on had 
slumped about as far as the would already by 45 minutes into the day.&nbsp; My 
setups are on breakout of 9-12-7 MACD.&nbsp; This strategy seems to need 
significant follow-up movement after the first hour.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I'm inclined to switch strategy to what I 
learned from a pro at Zeus Trading; fade the gap.&nbsp; I should maybe have gone 
long at the point where what I was originally thinking of shorting had fallen 
quite a bit in the first hour.&nbsp; Then take a small profit as it 
retraces.&nbsp; Vice-a-versa for gap up stocks.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  Linda Swope 
  </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Real 
  Traders</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 21, 1999 1:09 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> any suggestions for 
  whipsaw?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>I'm making really good progress on my daytrading method.&nbsp; I watch a 
  single stock all day, one that's naturally volatile.&nbsp; My target per trade 
  is 3/8 on a trading range day and 1/2 on a trending day.&nbsp; I average 4 
  trades a day.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>My setups are based on MACD's on three time frames.&nbsp; I won't enter 
  until all three agree.&nbsp; I use displaced moving averages for stops, trying 
  to give the price action a little room for "noise"..&nbsp; This simple system 
  works, with the exception of whipsaw days.&nbsp; Unfortunately, there are 
  plenty of those!</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>I have been working on filtering my signals with breakouts.&nbsp; I won't 
  take a signal if the price is in the middle of the trading range, but instead 
  wait for a breakout above resistance or through support to confirm the 
  signal.&nbsp; I did this to help prevent whipsaw.&nbsp; </DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>But today I shorted a breakout, only to find I'd sold the bottom.&nbsp; 
  Then I bought a breakout to the upside, to find I'd bought the top.&nbsp; Both 
  breakouts just died.&nbsp; But if I had taken my MACD signals when they came 
  into unison, I'd have made my 3/8 targets.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Am I missing something?&nbsp; Is it this very nervous market?&nbsp; Or is 
  it a matter of some days this will save me from more whipsaws and some days 
  this will cost me money?&nbsp; My goal is high probability trading and maybe 
  I'm almost there, but just got burned today...</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Any insight is appreciated.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR>Linda<BR>Swope's Mountain Photography<BR><A 
  href="http://www.swopephoto.com";>http://www.swopephoto.com</A><BR><A 
  href="mailto:linda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>linda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>Climb the 
  mountains &amp; get their glad tidings: Peace will flow into you as sunshine 
  into flower; the winds will blow their freshness into you &amp; storms their 
  energy, &amp; cares will drop off you like autumn leaves. John Muir 1838 - 
  1914</DIV>
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