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<DIV><FONT size=2>I have found the most efficient way to get rid of unwanted
e-mail and never received it again is to go into messages and click on, block
sender. I did this the first time I received an e-mail from metropol and have
not received one since.Happy trading. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
scheier </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:hallocd@xxxxxxxx";
title=hallocd@xxxxxxxx>Hallock</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A
href="mailto:trdoptions@xxxxxxxxxxx"; title=trdoptions@xxxxxxxxxxx>Larry
Muir</A> ; <A href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx>RealTradersList</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 26, 1999 1:20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> re-rebuttal / Re: metrotrash /
was Re: Fwd: Harry Bingham - On The Economist, Daewoo, European Credit,
EdwardChancellor, etc</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hallock wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE">You have a delete button - why don't you use
it? Those of us that are able <BR>to glean worthwhile information from
these letters shouldn't be denied the <BR>opportunity.</BLOCKQUOTE>So who's
denying you the opportunity? You're free to subscribe or purchase any
newsletter or product from any advertising you wish. The question
is: Is this a forum for newsletter self promotion? If so, then when did
it change? If it has changed, then let's open up the doors and let them
<I>all</I> in. If we try very hard, we might even be able to find one or
two that are even worse than Metropole. Then we can ask the list's
sponsors to change the name of this list to news.investors.misc.
Oh. Wait, that name is already taken. Well, I'm sure we can think
of another.
<P>Yes, I'm also as free to hit the delete button there as well as here, but
then I know what to expect at news.invest.misc, don't I. And I'm
also free to throw away the National Enquirer from my door step every night,
but like this forum, I don't want my doorstep cluttered up with the kind of
trash that insults my intelligence. If I wanted it, I'd subscribe to
it. I suggest you do the same.
<P>Apparently, you feel the people at Metropole deserve <I>your</I>
money. So why don't you give it to them. I'm sure there's a table
waiting there with your name on it.
<P>Mark Scheier <BR>
<P>Hallock wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE">You have a delete button - why don't you use
it? Those of us that are able <BR>to glean worthwhile information from
these letters shouldn't be denied the <BR>opportunity.
<P>Sincerely,
<P>Pete Hallock
<P>-----Original Message----- <BR>From: scheier <scheier@xxxxxxxxx>
<BR>To: Larry Muir <trdoptions@xxxxxxxxxxx>; RealTradersList
<BR><realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx> <BR>Date: Friday, September 24, 1999
12:58 PM <BR>Subject: metrotrash / was Re: Fwd: Harry Bingham - On The
Economist, Daewoo, <BR>European Credit, EdwardChancellor, etc
<P>>So these blatant solicitations by this bullshit metrocafe group to
join <BR>their <BR>>newsletter service continue. Why are we being
bombarded by this? This <BR>kind of <BR>>trash belongs on
news.investors.misc. Who are they kidding. Gold is just
<BR>>another commodity. Lot's of us were long the silver
market on the triple <BR>>inside day break out a few days back and took
profits as it hit the gap. <BR>Big <BR>>deal. It's just another
chart. If silver breaks out of its current flag, <BR>I'll <BR>>buy
it again. No need to polute one's opinion with such trash as this.
<BR>Begin <BR>>to treat gold and silver like they have some special magic
and you're <BR>doomed as <BR>>a trader. These pitiful gold
misers have been losing money all they way <BR>down <BR>>crying like
liberals being voted out of congress. Now the market finally <BR>turns
<BR>>around and they want to say "I told you so". The spite these
people seem <BR>to <BR>>have for Martin Armstrong is by itself a tip-off
that they can't be <BR>trusted. <BR>>Some funds are always short at
bottoms, that's why we have short covering <BR>>reversals. The tone
of their analysis implies they have some moral high <BR>ground <BR>>and
that the rest of the financial community has been out to get them. <BR>This
<BR>>they call market analysis. I got your tables. What a bunch of
fags. I <BR>thought <BR>>this group was called RealTraders.
<BR>> <BR>>Mark Scheier <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>Larry Muir wrote:
<BR>> <BR>>> of interest to some <BR>>> <BR>>>
>From: LePatron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <BR>>> >To:
trdoptions@xxxxxxxxxxx <BR>>> >Subject: Harry Bingham - On
The Economist, Daewoo, European Credit, <BR>Edward <BR>>>
>Chancellor, etc <BR>>> >Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:03:16 -0400
<BR>>> > <BR>>> >Le Metropole members, <BR>>> >
<BR>>> >The erudite Harry Bingham has served commentary at
<BR>>> >the Kiki Table that covers the waterfront on a <BR>>>
>variety of related subjects. <BR>>> > <BR>>> >"The
Economist" <BR>>> >"Daewoo" <BR>>> >"Korea" <BR>>>
>"The European credit markets" <BR>>> >"credit overall"
<BR>>> >"Edward Chancellor - "Devil Take the Hindmost" <BR>>>
> <BR>>> >Today's gold market action from Midas: <BR>>>
> <BR>>> >Gold roared out of the box today, opening strongly. We
<BR>>> >learned this morning from a bullion dealer that
<BR>>> >"Hannibal Lecter" (Goldman Sachs) was in their selling
<BR>>> >yesterday like they had never seen. 8,000 contracts was
<BR>>> >the number on Comex alone. <BR>>> > <BR>>>
>Today, they handed the baton off to fellow "Hannibal," <BR>>>
>Chase Bank, that took on all comers early up to the <BR>>>
>$265.30 level, basis the Dec. contract. The locals were <BR>>>
>all foaming at the mouth to get short and they did. <BR>>>
>Trapped short! - as they had to cover late when gold <BR>>>
>refused to break going into the close. December Comex <BR>>>
>gold finished at $265.40 - up $3.60. <BR>>> > <BR>>>
>The only reason gold did not finish higher was that <BR>>>
>"Hannibal Lecter" showed up offering 2,000 Dec. contracts <BR>>>
>at $265.50 on the close. He was taken out. Then he <BR>>>
>offered another 1,000 contracts. It was late in the <BR>>> >day
and that worked. <BR>>> > <BR>>> >The open interest only
went down 4700 contracts yesterday. <BR>>> >The market was looking
for a 10,000 drop in the open <BR>>> >interest on Comex (this past
year the open interest <BR>>> >often dropped 10,000 contracts on a
$2 rally). That is <BR>>> >BULLISH as new buying came in. That is
what we have <BR>>> >wanted to see for some time. <BR>>> >
<BR>>> >We also received feedback this session that producers
<BR>>> >were buying the back months and covering some hedges.
<BR>>> > <BR>>> >The physical gold market is on fire. The
gold market <BR>>> >fundamentals have not changed in two days. They
were just <BR>>> >as bullish two days ago when most of the
mainstream <BR>>> >gold analysts were telling you how bearish the
gold <BR>>> >market was. <BR>>> > <BR>>> >The
only change in the past two days is PERCEPTION. <BR>>> >
<BR>>> >It is of interest to me that word is now spreading about
<BR>>> >the gold market exposure of hedge funds because they have
<BR>>> >borrowed so much gold to finance their trading operations
<BR>>> >and investments. <BR>>> > <BR>>> >The
Cafe has alerted you for weeks that we have heard <BR>>> >that just
4 hedge funds (Soros,Tiger,Armstrong and Moore <BR>>> >Capital) may
be short 30 to 50 million ounces of gold. <BR>>> > <BR>>>
>Yesterday, I reported further confirmation of Tiger's <BR>>>
>short gold postition from a good source. You might recall <BR>>>
>I mentioned how nervous this Tiger investor was because <BR>>>
>Tiger is short gold. <BR>>> > <BR>>> >I also suggested
that it would be only a matter of <BR>>> >time before some hedge
fund sharks stepped up to <BR>>> >the plate to take on the
vulnerable hedge fund shorts. <BR>>> > <BR>>> >Awhile
back, I pointed out that the highly regarded Tudor <BR>>>
>operation was buying thousands of December gold options with a
<BR>>> >$260 to $265 strike price. That trade looks awfully good
<BR>>> >today. Yesterday, Tudor was a big buyer of futures.
<BR>>> > <BR>>> >One of the new top guns at Tudor, Dwight
Anderson, just <BR>>> >happens to have been a big wig at Tiger
until very <BR>>> >recently. Hmmmmm. <BR>>> > <BR>>>
>It is Cafe time. Make a reservation if you have not done <BR>>>
>so and check in for a full membership. The party is <BR>>>
>just starting. <BR>>> > <BR>>> ><A HREF="<A
href="http://www.lemetropolecafe.com/scripts/products.cfm";>http://www.lemetropolecafe.com/scripts/products.cfm</A>">Le
<BR>Metropole <BR>>> >Cafe</A> <BR>>> > <BR>>>
>All the best <BR>>> > <BR>>> >Bill Murphy <BR>>>
>Le Patron <BR>>> >www.LeMetropoleCafe.com <BR>>> >
<BR>>> > <BR>>> > <BR>>> > <BR>>> >
<BR>>> > <BR>>> > <BR>>> > <BR>>> >
<BR>>> > <BR>>> > <BR>>> > <BR>>> >
<BR>>> > <BR>>> > <BR>>> > <BR>>> >
<BR>>> <BR>>>
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From: Levent Erbora <erbora@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi Kohath,
Thanks for your response. I agree that both Dow and CNBC leave a lot to be desired when it comes to breaking news.
Actually, when a news item appears on the Dow wire, it signifies the end of the play for most daytraders :-)
And it is truly a rare occasion when CNBC breaks an original or exclusive news item. The best things about watching CNBC though,
are the "Joe Kernan" plays and the daily guest (company CEO's, etc.) appearances. It is a sheer pleasure trying to anticipate which one of that day's "hot stocks" Joe Kernan's going to mention in his regular segments and participate in the lightning fast spike and the consequent and inevitable fade that follows after even the briefest mention :-) Recently, Tom Costello is gathering up a good following too. Shorting a guest's stock right at the instant he shows up for the interview is also a very reliable play :-)
Anyway, what I had in mind in my original query was company specific news (earnings, warnings, mergers, deals, agreements, etc.)
rather than general market moving news, and no tv will be good enough for that.
Regards,
Levent
-----Original Message-----
From: Kohath [SMTP:kohath@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 8:09 PM
To: Levent Erbora; Realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Real Time News Service
Dow Jones is pathetic if you are looking for real time news. So is CNBC. I
use Bloombergs. Was anyone watching when CNBC announced for the first time
that MSFT's pres had said technology stock prices are absurd. Bloombergs
reported it 1 hour before the market tanked! I don't know how many times
CNBC get's Pisani on there, saying, well, gee, the market tanked 2 hours ago
because of !!! From what I have heard the CNBC'rs have their money in Index
Funds, and Hate to announce any bad news. I used to watch CNBC, but have
recently changed to Bloomberg's and I think they are LESS biased to the up
side, still biased, but not so strong to the point they will deliberatly
delay or completly ignore bad news.
----- Original Message -----
From: Levent Erbora
To: Realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 1:45 PM
Subject: Real Time News Service
As a full-time private stock trader, breaking news plays are very important
for me.
Unfortunately though, the "real time" news headlines I get through my quote
provider PC Quote is a total joke. Their feed is through Comtex and Dow
Jones, and there is always a delay of at least 5 to 20 minutes after the
news actually breaks. The best resource I could find on the web is
Newsalert, they do a pretty good job and very comprehensive and free, but
even they are delayed by 2 to 5 minutes I would say (where even a 1 minute
delay means thousands of $$$). So my questions are as follows:
What do the real professionals use as their news feed? Reuters? Bloomberg?
What are the costs associated with these? Does one need a special terminal
and dedicated feed? Are there any REAL real time resources on the internet?
Thank you in advance for any info and/or insight.
Best regards,
Levent
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