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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>If I decide to stay with online trading I will
surely check the connection before sending order to the floor. Happy
trading.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From:
</B>Ron Dawes <<A
href="mailto:ron@xxxxxxxxx";>ron@xxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>To: </B>Terry S.
Smith <tesla@xxxxxxx>; <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx</A> <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>Wednesday, August 04, 1999 12:24 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>RE: INTERNET
TRADERS BEWARE<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=293072119-04081999>You will find
that some days are better or worse than others. Congestion, high
traffic, equipment problems causing outages or reroutes, a backhoe digging
up a fiber line, etc, etc. can affect performance day to day or hour to
hour. Best thing to do is monitor it frequently. And either have
a backup with a different ISP who is on a different major backbone, or use
the old fashioned telphone to the broker to bail you
out.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
owner-realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Terry S.
Smith<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 04, 1999 12:48 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> INTERNET TRADERS
BEWARE<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>INTERNET TRADING- I have just installed
ping plotter <A
href="http://nessoft.com/pingplotter/alert.html";>http://nessoft.com/pingplotter/alert.html</A>
and what an real eye opener. I found out there are 14 connection to my
online trading company, pmb. On an experiment I set ping plotter to
trace every second of my connection quality, I timed it for one minute
and did the experiment 15 times. I have discovered the internet
connection quality is not reliable (readings over 1000) 15 second of
each minute. I am seriously considering NOT trading S&P's anymore
over the internet. Any one out there care to comment?</FONT></DIV>
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From: "Howard Hopkins" <hehohop@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: knox1@xxxxxxx, realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: INTERNET TRADERS BEWARE
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 16:03:03 EDT
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Status:
I daytrade the S&P and go directly to the pit, so I don't actually trade
through the internet.
I get my data through the internet ISP (Erols) on a standard phone line
(46000 bps) and the data provider is Track Data Corp (mytrack.com).
Charting is InvestorRT (linnsoft.com). Both very inexpensive.
On my screen I have 1 min candlestick charts of S&P futures, and the S&P,
Dow, ND100 cash. I also have the S&P futures in a five minute candlestick
chart and a quote page with about 60 securities and indexes on it. My
quotes come through 2 to 10 seconds faster, on average, than some friends
that use tradestation with BMI cable data feed.
I also have Squawkbox (a live broadcast from the pit) coming through the
same internet connection. The data on Squawk is less than a second behind
the pit whereas my data feed seems to be about 10 seconds behind. So if my
screen data seems slow I have real-time over Squawk (www.los.net). So I
have a lot of data coming in at the same time.
I haven't played pingpong in years and only vaguely know what a ping test
is. What I do know is that my data feed is, as reliable or more so, as any
other I have tried and I'm pretty happy with it. (I've also had DTN
Satellite feed and ran it side by side to MyTrack. MyTrack was about 5
seconds faster on average.)
I tried E-Signal and found it much more expensive than MyTrack and I
couldn't even get delayed quotes on the markets I didn't want real time.
Hope this helps.
Howard
>From: James & April Knox <knox1@xxxxxxx>
>To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: INTERNET TRADERS BEWARE
>Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 12:28:31 -0700
>
>Terry, I cannot comment on trading the S&P. I can comment on my
>experience with E-Signals internet service. In July, I signed up for
>E-signal. I could only get quote pages operating. I could not access
>charting on 10-minute delay, which is a direct function of having a
>quote page. This fact stumped many of their techs. I spent enough time
>on the phone with them to qualify for their payroll. Literally 2 weeks
>and 8 technicians later, someone at E-Signal had me perform a Trace
>Route through the MS DOS PROMPT. There I got to see various "hops"
>along the way from my ISP (which is IDT out of NY) to my computer.
>Apparently the numbers reflect a delay in time from hop to hop to hop.
>According to the E-Signal tech my ISP was inadequate and therefore I
>would have better luck with pigeons and notes, in terms of getting
>consistent reliable charts. So I was left with either canceling the
>service or paying for the most expensive 10-minute delayed quote service
>known to man. I also signed up for Ensign, but without the information
>flowing seamlessly from E-Signals data manager to Ensign, the third
>party software was useless. Whether I subscribed to a Real Time or
>Delayed service, my internet connection would have been the same. Can
>you trade the S&P off of E-Signal's internet service? I couldn't keep a
>delayed chart on the screen. My next option will be to look at Cable
>services. Does anyone have any suggestions? -James
>
>"Terry S. Smith" wrote:
>
> > INTERNET TRADING- I have just installed ping plotter
> > http://nessoft.com/pingplotter/alert.html and what an real eye opener.
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