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<P>Jim White wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;I hope this is a joke, Norman.The message labeled
TEST was to see if my messages were getting through to the list. I have
sent several previous that did not make it.For living up to my standards,
see my Trader's World article entitled "Time And Price Forecasting" or
talk to the trader group in L.A. that I periodically present my research
results to.On 7/25/99 I sent a message to this group with an attachment
listing my forecasts for the DOW from last year to the end of 99 with results
in form of trading days between the forecasted turn and the actual pivot.
Several participants on this list requested I resend it which I have been
trying to do. Since there are not a sizable sample of occurances, I have
not reported the statistics yet however on by baseline techniques I have
them and have shared them.Jim,
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Aha! So now the truth surfaces!&nbsp; So, you are
not the objective scientific judge you claim to be.
<BR>In fact, you are a competitor which keeps you from being objective.
Could your excessively negative criticisms of my posts be professional
jealousy?&nbsp; I think thou protests too much!
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As for your reposting your forecasts or pivot points,
if&nbsp; there are so few, it seems to me it should be an easy matter to
just post the few dates for the future and let the RT jury judge for themselves.
Most scientific testing allows objective third parties to evaluate the
data and the results. So, just post those few dates that are left for 1999
and let the market present your case for you, just like I did.
<P>Semi objectively,
<P>Norman
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nwinski</DIV>

<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A HREF="mailto:jwhite43@xxxxxxx"; title="jwhite43@xxxxxxx">Jim
White</A></DIV>

<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx</DIV>

<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 28, 1999 2:38
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: TEST</DIV>
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<P>Jim White wrote:
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 <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>Jim
White</FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>PIVOT Research &amp; Trading Inc.</FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
&nbsp;Jim,
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; You have not risen to your own standards. This is not
a valid test. Where are the say 100 or more occurances of the phenomonon,
the percentage of moves in the direction of the signal, the price
<BR>distribution of both winning and losing trades?&nbsp; C'mon Jim, you
can do&nbsp; better than this.
<P>Cheers,
<P>Norman
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>hi there</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>for shortterm intra day trading&nbsp; what 
would/should the varaibles be ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>default&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; +d1,-d1&nbsp; = 
14</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 
size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
adx&nbsp;&nbsp; = 14</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>thanks</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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At 07:44 AM 7/28/99 -0700, Dick Webb wrote:
>Joe 
>Traders world is great for getting a strong depressed
>feeling. You can go through the magazine and find
>numerous articles (by authors that have paid for
>advertising) that will make you feel like you should
>be making 100% per month.
>
>If you are willing to look beyond that it will give
>you an introduction to various types of thinking not
>publised else where.
>
>Dick
> 
>===
>Big Lucky Dick 
>

Hi Dick,

Well, I didn't pay for advertising, they just asked me
to write something for them...

You're right, beware of advertisers who promise dreams,
especially with guarantees of success.. Exaggerated claims
are your first warning of a rip-off, keep your money
in your trading account. 

Yes, if you can read through the inflated claims without 
gagging, you can find some gem ideas buried in there. 

I'll repeat some of my article for RealTraders readers here:-
There is no magical pill for success. Success takes
experience and work, and the learning process can
ruin you financially.. Most traders do not survive the
learning process, so the priority should be to make
your capital last long enough. The longer you are
in the game, the more you learn, the better your odds
of success. Important clue:- Trade small until you have 
confidence in your technique.

-Neal.


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      • From: Jim White