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Jim White wrote:
> I would like to see just one astro guy respond
> to questions on his technique with an objective experiment that could be
> tested by anyone. I don't think we will see such an offer.
> Jim
Yes Ira, it is hard to not say anything when the
_______ gets so thick you need a shovel. Astrology is
not as simple as reading the daily newspaper under your
sign and knowing what you day will be like. This is
not based on you. It is great amusement and
unfortunately some people think that because it did
not work for them astrology does not work. To do it
write, I understand that you
need the time of birth and place of birth, it is my
understanding that if the time is off by XXXX amount of
minutes it can throw off the results.
I had a relative that started studying astrology in
the 1940's and spent a lot of time studying and doing
continuing education. I remember a situation where
they did a chart for a person based on the time of
birth they were given. The
information derived did not line up with the person.
My relative asked if
they were sure of their time of birth. Since she knew
the person she was doing the chart for she computed
different time periods until it lined up with the
person themselves. She gave them the new write-up and
said I think this is the time you were born. A few
years later the person found something in writing that
confirmed the new time my relative had arrived at. We
hear a lot of hearsay stories, this is a first hand
true story that I know to be 100% true.
In order for Mr. White or anyone to give an astrology
person questions on his technique would involve the
person knowing a lot more about astrology than just
reading the daily newspaper. They would have to have a
good working knowledge of astrology. This would involve
studying it to understand it, so they could ask
intelligent questions. I have a lot more stories I
could tell you but I think the one above should cause
you to think, objectively that is. When my relative
was living I was given a write up monthly broken down
into shorter time periods.
I have not studied astrology but because of my
relatives involvement I respect
anyone who has taken the time and effort to do the
research. This is hearsay:
Hitler was reported to have consulted an astrologer,
when he fired them because of his ego he started losing
the war. Thank god they did not have fair labor
practices in Germany at the time or we may all be
speaking German now.
I have learned not to criticize something if I do not
know anything about it.
If you attempt to tear down something you have less
than a working knowledge of in my opinion you are a
fool and you come across as a fool. Unfortunately
most religions are vehemently opposed to astrology.
My relative was a Methodist and could not discuss
astrology to people in the church who were not open
minded. Maybe some of the critics on here can not
disassociate their religious beliefs from objectivity.
Have a nice day.
Norman E.
Ira wrote:
>
> I have followed this thread on astro for a while and
> said nothing. At this point I feel that a reply is
> called for. Norman has contributed to this forum on
> many occasions. Some times he was right and other
> times he was right, but a little off on the timing.
> I don't recall him being really wrong.
> Here is someone, who once again, says give me
> something for nothing. Everything about astro is out
> there. Norman found something that works for him and
> thought that someone else might benefit by it and put
> his thoughts out there. If you are that anxious to
> prove or disprove the theory, go out there, do YOUR
> homework and come back and disprove what he has to
> say. If you want to learn about it, contact Norman or
> someone else that teaches it. I don't use astro
> because it doesn't suit my trading style. I spent a
> year developing a system that works for me and I
> won't give that away either. If you want a short cut
> pay for it. If you want to do it on your own, you
> will pay an awful lot more and maybe never succeed.
> If you are just out there to badger people I am sure
> that Mr. Duffey will enlist you on his team.
>
> Nuff said. Ira.
>
> Jim White wrote:
>
> > This reveals the real objective of this individual
> > - not to further the
> > knowledge of the trader but to sell you something.
> > And there is no double standard. Each and every
> > technique should stand up to
> > the same level of scrutiny. I would like to see
> > just one astro guy respond
> > to questions on his technique with an objective
> > experiment that could be
> > tested by anyone. I don't think we will see such an
> > offer.
> > Jim
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: nwinski <nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: Real Traders 99 <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 11:46 PM
> > Subject: Astro Technical Analysis - Double
> > Standard?
> >
> > > RTs,
> > >
> > > . One observation that I have made is that it
> > seem that the skeptics
> > > set a higher standard for Astrology than they do
> > for any other form of
> > > market analysis. When someone mentions that they
> > got a buy signal based
> > > on some oscillator or moving average, you don't
> > see the entire RT list
> > > jump all over them asking for extensive
> > statistics and causation proving
> > > that it works. If they do mention that it works
> > 70% of the time, people
> > > are crawling thru their computer monitors to try
> > to get the formulae for
> > > the new found holly grail. Now, I am apparently
> > expected to give
> > > definitive scientific proof and causation for
> > Astrology and the markets.
> > >
> > > This is a double standard applied by the
> > skeptics. It is does not set a
> > > fair or level playing field.
> > > My purpose in posting Astro correlations is
> > only to whet peoples
> > > appetites for this area of study. I am not here
> > to do their research or
> > > homework. If they can see a nugget of value in
> > researching something I
> > > post, then I have done the list a valuable
> > service. If someone decides
> > > that they would like to seriously pursue this
> > avenue of study, I stand
> > > ready to help.
> > >
> > > Appetizingly,
> > >
> > > Norman
> > >
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