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<font size=3>Realtraders,<br>
<br>
&nbsp; Thanks to all those who have so far responded about my inquire for
a new listserver.&nbsp; For your information, it appears the consensus is
leading me to investigate several&nbsp; providers: Egroup, listbot, and
onelist as well as a few others.&nbsp; We shall see.<br>
<br>
&nbsp; As for knowing who has been paying for this service for the last
few years, it has been Kasanjian Research - the makers of PatterSmasher
and Nature's Pulse
(www.realtraders.com).&nbsp;
As for me, as I have mentioned, I do NOT work for them but I'm an
independent trader who use to contribute regularly for the first few
years.&nbsp; Hence, in the beginning of the Forum, I asked Eddie Kwong
(former Kasanjian employee and Moderator of this Forum)&nbsp; if I could
help &quot;a little&quot; when he became busy with other tasks.&nbsp;
Well, it was not too long after, that I became the acting moderator (some
may think policeman) and I have been at it, I think , for over 3.5
years.&nbsp; Gosh, time has flown!&nbsp; And I think I have read nearly
EVERY post sent to this Forum, and trust me, I am no 'Speedreader'....no
wonder why I get these headaches.<br>
<br>
&nbsp; Anyhow, it has been a pleasure moderating this group of primarily
professional traders and I hope to continue to do so into the
future.&nbsp; Obviously, we (the Forum) has had its bad days or weeks,
but on average, the quality of posts and posting in general represent
IMHO some of the best on any discussion forum on the internet.&nbsp;
Especially at our price, which is free.&nbsp; As far as contributions,
that sounds like a great gesture and we will see if anything like that
unfolds.&nbsp; However, the only problem I see with such an idea is, what
if someone makes a contribution and then begins to break the rules or
even bends them too much and I feel compelled/forced to remove
them.&nbsp; Or, as has happened in the past, other members confront me
about inappropriate actions/behavior that takes place behind the
scenes.&nbsp; If I get enough complaints, I then get involved and often
am forced to remove them as well.&nbsp; So, how do you think they will
react if they recently made a small contribution only to find out that
they have been removed.&nbsp; BTW, for your information, people do not
get remove too often for bending the rules but there are situation that
require immediate and stern attention.&nbsp; Anyhow, the contribution
idea is a good one and it WILL work for me, BUT will it work for YOU,
knowing the possible consequence of removal...something to think
about.<br>
<br>
Have a great day and look forward to a long weekend.<br>
Sincerely,<br>
John Boggio - RT Moderator<br>
<br>
<br>
At 08:21 AM 6/30/99 -0600, Ge Wong wrote:<br>
&gt;Realtraders:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;I 'am sorry I do not have an idea to finding a new Listserver. I
'am<br>
&gt;grateful for John Boggio and all the people who contribute to the
group and<br>
&gt;want to Thank them for a job well done.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;I guess the thing I want to address is how does or where does the
monies<br>
&gt;come to pay for a listserver ? This is a non-profit group without
membership<br>
&gt;fee's ? With 1000 + members ?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;I would like to make a contribution and have a faster/better
server.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;John keep up the good work.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Thanks again,<br>
&gt;GW<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;-----Original Message-----<br>
&gt;From:<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>owner-realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx]<br>
&gt;On Behalf Of G.John Boggio<br>
&gt;Sent:<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>Tuesday, June 29, 1999 1:20 PM<br>
&gt;To:<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx<br>
&gt;Subject:<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>Admin:
Looking for a NEW listserver<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Realtraders,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp; As you know, we recently switched to an alternate listserver
when or<br>
&gt;previous system blew up.&nbsp; Unfortunately, the listserver that we
switched<br>
&gt;to, stinks.&nbsp; As most of you know, the Digest format does not
decode the<br>
&gt;attached files properly, there are sometime duplicate (to
quadruplicate)<br>
&gt;postings of the same message and finally the 'owners' (such as
myself), I<br>
&gt;have been receiving hundreds of 'returned mail' postings everyday for
the<br>
&gt;last two months.&nbsp; Finally, when you combine that with shabby
technical<br>
&gt;support from the system engineers of the listserver, well, I have
had<br>
&gt;enough!!!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp; Therefore, I am in the market for a new company to provide
our<br>
&gt;listserving needs and I need your help.&nbsp; If anyone has any
suggestions of<br>
&gt;companies that I should try calling, please forward me that
information.&nbsp; I<br>
&gt;would appreciate actually phone numbers or contact names as to
expedite<br>
&gt;this search, as well as ease some of the time required to pursue
this<br>
&gt;endeavor without interfering with my daily trading.&nbsp; Please
remember, I am<br>
&gt;a full time trader and have been moderating this Forum for free for
the<br>
&gt;last several years.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp; Ideally, we are looking for a company that can manage a Forum
that has<br>
&gt;just over 1000 members, offers digest or archiving capabilities,
is<br>
&gt;reasonably priced (ideally under a $100 a month) and does not
require<br>
&gt;advertising compensation to the members of the Forum.&nbsp; If anyone
could help<br>
&gt;me out, it will be greatly appreciated.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Thank you,<br>
&gt;John Boggio - RT Moderator<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
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From: "Peter Timaratz" <timaratz@xxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: RE: 80% probability trades
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:59:02 -0500
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Probability is only part of the picture. And because option strategies are
so hard to backtest they can be very misleading. If 90% of the time you make
$100 and 10% of the time you lose $1000, this obviously isn't a very good
strategy. Probability numbers are meaningless without $ attached to the
win/loss percentages.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Tom MacDonald
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 1:16 AM
To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: 80% probability trades


Using delta neutral credit spreads designed to make money from
falling volatility, you can actually choose the % probability of
your trade being successful by the targets you
pick...70%...80%...even greater than 90%.

Tom