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Michael:

Good story.  It would be nice to know who he sold that position to and at what
price.  Kind of like my my stock story which is probably not true.  "TO WHO".

Norman E.


Michael wrote:

> You asked:
>
> Or are the runner's
> few contracts enough to *change* that equilibrium??)  How does the
> runner keep the market moving to his desired target -- do the rest of
> the floor traders smell blood too, and help him move it?
>
> Locals do to some extent work together and follow the leader like sheep, as
> you suggest.  Due to the close quarters, etc. locals have to live with one
> another day by day (elbow to armpit) and "picking off a local" is frowned
> upon to say the least.  So if a local is trying to bid up the market, he can
> usually do so until some paper orders are  encountered (this 'price
> discovery is essential to the functioning of the market by the way, but
> that's I suppose another subject).  He/she then can buy the offers and drive
> the market higher in hopes of getting to some stops, whereby he can exit,
> and usually exit with a profit (if there are enough stops or new orders
> enticed to buy, he can exit all quite profitably).
>
> In the mid 80's a new contract, the S$P 100, was started on the Merc and
> wasn't yet very liquid,  with mostly newbie type trader like myself who
> generally watched, and traded one lots.  A boisterous local bagan bidding up
> the market , and finally yelled a bid for 500 contracts at an area near
> where we all suspected stops would be located.   A broker for a large
> institution was lying in wait, and responded with a firm SOLD!
>
> The look of panic on the local's face remains with me to this day...
>
> Michael