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<DIV><FONT size=2>Dear earl,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Because you have many good posts ,</DIV>
<DIV>I want to read them and to take consideration of them.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>but If I see 2 messages for the long term trend:contrarian drastically 
</DIV>
<DIV>I might lost your best posting...</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>IT IS PITTY FOR ME&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;so I want to prevent this and </DIV>
<DIV>warning you..........................................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>so did you get my idea ??? or not ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I cannot understand with my knowledge how they could </DIV>
<DIV>be contrarian in only 7 days. and thanks god nothing </DIV>
<DIV>no bad events happened.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks GOD</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- 
  <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx"; title=eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx>Earl Adamy</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>RealTraders Discussion Group</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Mittwoch, 5. Mai 1999 16:00</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: I refere to earl adamy &quot;june bonds &quot; 
  message</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>I think the word you wanted is &quot;refer&quot; rather than 
  &quot;refere&quot;. This is the second time you have composed such a message 
  and used my name in the subject. This is not the kind of message which 
  contributes to a positive environment for the exchange of ideas. I suggest 
  that the next time you feel compelled to compose such a message that you press 
  the &lt;Delete&gt; button instead of the &lt;Send&gt; button. 
  </FONT></FONT><FONT size=2>Had you taken the time to carefully read&nbsp;my 
  most recent post instead of firing up&nbsp;a message reply, you would have 
  found there is no such inconsistency. I expect the equity markets to go 
  considerably higher in spite of some technicals. </FONT></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2><EM>&quot;<FONT size=2></EM><EM>Technical work still points 
  to 117-118 area into mid-May. While I have<BR>indications of a top in 
  equities, I don't think this market is going to just<BR>fade away, I think it 
  is going to go out in a spectacle of fireworks which<BR>we have yet to see. 
  And when the day does come, treasuries and foreign<BR>currencies may offer 
  some opportunities.&quot;</EM></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>I trade futures for a living and use mutual funds for 
  investment.&nbsp;I follow the markets where they lead - I never fight the 
  tape. However, I have no hesitation to stand aside when the markets do not fit 
  my trading or investment style. I have made no secret of the fact that I 
  consider the US equity markets&nbsp;vastly overvalued and very dangerous. This 
  does not mean they will not go higher&nbsp;-&nbsp;I continue to expect that 
  the S&amp;P will come close to the 1600 area and have said as much since the 
  S&amp;P was in the 1000 (many here will remember my historical S&amp;P channel 
  chart dating from the 1920's). I have made no secret of the fact 
  that&nbsp;while I continue to trade the S&amp;P futures both long and short, 
  my investment accounts have been out of US equities. It was last fall when all 
  the talking heads were panning Asia&nbsp;that I first indicated I was making a 
  major long term commitments to Asia based mutual funds because I felt they 
  offered tremendous risk/reward opportunities (up over 50%). I subsequently 
  followed up with an analysis of the Nikkei and indicated that the Yen should 
  bear watching for signs of a decline against the dollar. Earlier this year 
  (when the talking heads said oil was going to $8 a barrel) I suggested that 
  energy funds&nbsp;appeared to offer significant opportunities (up over 80%) 
  and about six weeks ago I indicated that my XAU system had issued a rare buy 
  (up 27% in a month). About a month ago I indicated that I thought bonds had 
  bottomed and that I had made a major commitment to long term bond positions, 
  however I reversed course quickly (0.4% loss) when the bond market failed to 
  follow through, then indicated bonds would likely break to 117-118 area well 
  before the bond market reversed a few days ago. Some months ago I posted 
  several days worth of futures trades, complete with detailed technical 
  analysis, in real-time which turned out a very nice profit on two out of three 
  trades in just a few days. In summary, I'm far from infallible, however I do 
  rather nicely without taking much risk and I support my own trades and 
  investments with my own analysis. I've had spells of S&amp;P trading where as 
  many as 70% of my trades have been wrong but have made still made money by 
  controlling losses tightly and letting the winners run.&nbsp;I always have a 
  benchmark which indicates when my analysis is wrong and don't hesitate to 
  reverse course. Nor do I hesitate to disagree with the conventional wisdom of 
  the talking heads.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>I contribute more than raw opinions here, I post charts and 
  analysis. I do so, not for compensation, but in the hope of helping others in 
  the same manner as others have helped me. I make no claims to infallibility 
  and those who read what I post should perform their own analysis. What I don't 
  post here are any &quot;holy grail&quot; indicators or systems because there 
  are none. The only group (and it is a very large one) with which I take strong 
  exception are those who believe that they can be successful traders or 
  investors without&nbsp;understanding the markets. Those who believe that 
  success lies in some combination of hardware/software, some black box system, 
  some&nbsp;guru, or some chat room will ultimately have their collective clocks 
  cleaned!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Earl</FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE 
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV 
    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
    Edelina 
    </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
    href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
    title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>RealTraders Discussion Group</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 04, 1999 3:00 
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> I refere to earl adamy 
    &quot;june bonds &quot; message</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>dear earl adamy,</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>I respect your work. </DIV>
    <DIV>but it is better you send few messages and specially those which not 
    contrary </DIV>
    <DIV>one the other in a laps of 7 days.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>one week ago the sp500 was 1372 and you were prevising an explosion to 
    the 1400-1600</DIV>
    <DIV>area..... now in your last message . you telling that you see a top in 
    equities.</DIV>
    <DIV>and as a good politician you keep changing from equity to the bond 
    market.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>My GOD if only I have the courage to tell peoples my previsions </DIV>
    <DIV>all of them will become rich .</DIV>
    <DIV>but I am still without courage.</DIV>
    <DIV>and I am keeping to wonder peoples like you who have even the courage 
    to</DIV>
    <DIV>write contrarian messages.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>I understand that every one has and is free to express his prevision on 
    the market.</DIV>
    <DIV>BUT he must take care of contrarian previsions very often.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>PLEASE refere to the message with title JUNE 
BONDS.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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BOTTrader:

Thanks a lot for your observation. I would test my stcoks with your
6x multiple.

Rajat


>From: BOTTrader@xxxxxxx
>To: rajatkbose@xxxxxxxxxxx, realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: ATR based stops
>Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 11:47:38 EDT
>
>Rajat:
>I have incorporated ATR bands into my system for 2+ years now.... and they
>are quite useful.... For stocks I find that 6x ATR is a typical EXTREME
>area.... if your stocks run up or down to that band, you'll want to tighten
>your stops to lock profits.  Occasionally, the stock will "ride the band" 
>for
>some length of time, but just as often, they retrace from those extremes.
>


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