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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>You should be using three time frames, one above 
the one you are trading and one below e.g. daily+weekly+60min or 
60min+daily+10min. One above is used for trend, one below is used to time entry, 
and one you are trading is used for primary support and resistance. Trading 
anything less than daily will likely require that you remain glued to the 
monitor.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Earl</FONT></DIV>
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style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From: 
    </B>Linda Swope &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:lswope@xxxxxxxxxxx";>lswope@xxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
    </B>RealTraders Discussion Group &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
    </B>Friday, April 09, 1999 6:06 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Stocks: need help with 
    daytrading time frames.<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV>TGIF Everybody!</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>After my first week&nbsp;back trading since October, I'm trying to 
    summarize what I learned.&nbsp; And learn more!</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>I was proud of my own patience, waiting for the right trade.&nbsp; I 
    used to be a &quot;shoot from the hip&quot; trader, over-trading just for 
    the rush.&nbsp; Little did I know then the real &quot;rush&quot; would be my 
    money flying out of my account!&nbsp; </DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><EM>What I did right:</EM></DIV>
    <DIV>Set my stops and targets before I got in the trade.</DIV>
    <DIV>Listened to music instead of CNBC&nbsp; z:^)</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><EM>What I did wrong:</EM></DIV>
    <DIV>Fear kept me out of several trades that did play out just the way I 
    thought they would.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Sold trade #1 too early... just plain got excited .</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Did not sell at resistance on trade #2.&nbsp; Sold at support. Got 
    nervous.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Increased my stop once I was&nbsp;in trade #3.&nbsp; Gave it one more 
    level of support to test. (It failed). Got brazen.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Made a quick, though tiny, buck on trade #4.&nbsp; Got it right.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>What I really learned is that even though I want to be a swing trader 
    and capture a larger move, I don't seem to have the patience to watch a 
    stock for more than a day and a half without getting an itchy trigger finger 
    and wanting to sell.&nbsp; I also need larger stops for swings and then 
    don't sleep as well.&nbsp; </DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>So I'm trying to day trade again.&nbsp; I don't have the modem or 
    nerves for scalping 16th's.&nbsp; I'm trying for a point or more, based on 
    buying retracements. Here's my question: I can't figure out which time frame 
    to give the most weight.&nbsp; A 20 or 30 or even 60 minute chart probably 
    reflects the size moves I'm trying to trade, but I find my entry with the 5 
    minute charts.&nbsp;Then I find myself glued to the 5 min. charts again, 
    watching for any little nuance in price.&nbsp; I trade more price than 
    indicators, but the different time frames portray the indicators 
    differently.&nbsp;&nbsp;The 5 minute chart whipsaws the indicators I do 
    watch, but gives early warning too.&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>I need to identify my time frame to set realistic stops and 
    targets&nbsp;and stick to that.&nbsp; I would be comfortable holding a stock 
    all day.&nbsp; But I keep flipping through the different charts, mentally 
    changing my objectives as I look at each.&nbsp; Both target and 
    stop&nbsp;will be based on fib numbers, but I want to&nbsp;complete the 
    trade in a day.&nbsp; Is there a way to set a target&nbsp;and stop based on 
    1 day's action?&nbsp; Would you use average true range?&nbsp; &nbsp;Any 
    comments? </DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Thanks to everyone who's help and encouragement has gotten me back in 
    the saddle!</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Linda</DIV>
    <DIV>linda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Climb 
    the mountains &amp; get their glad tidings: Peace will flow into you as 
    sunshine into flower; the winds will blow their freshness into you &amp; 
    storms their energy, &amp; cares will drop off you like autumn leaves. John 
    Muir 1838 - 1914</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I'm sure there are lots of computer savvy 
traders on the list,,,and sorrry to post non-trading topic here.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I've been saving all the important emails in a 
folder under inbox in Microsoft Outlook Express.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Today,,while I was a medicine 
head,,,,erased/removed the folder accidentally,,,and couldn't find it anywhere 
(not in deleted items folder,,nor in recycle bin either). </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>If there's anyone who knows how to recover this 
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Kenin:

Do you have Norton Utilities?  If so it should be in there. 

Norman E.

> Kevin Shin wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm sure there are lots of computer savvy traders on the list,,,and
> sorrry to post non-trading topic here.
> I've been saving all the important emails in a folder under inbox in
> Microsoft Outlook Express.
> Today,,while I was a medicine head,,,,erased/removed the folder
> accidentally,,,and couldn't find it anywhere (not in deleted items
> folder,,nor in recycle bin either).
> If there's anyone who knows how to recover this mistake,,,please help.
> 
> Outlook Express verion 4.72 and Windows 98
> 
> Many thanks in advance and sorry to bother others.
>