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Couldn't agree more! Vendors should be able to produce at least a two
year profitable "audited" track record. If they can not do this, it
raises a red flag automaticaly.. like you said if you go to a
professional: Doctor, Laywer, money manager, etc.. you would like proof
of their expertice before put your trust in them, and they have to
provide it.
MS wrote:
> Randall,
>
> Your point is right on the mark !!!! What I find interesting...is that in this
> industry the vendors expect the consumer to go back to the dark ages and blindly
> cough up $$$$ just because they say so...being a responsible and consciousous
> consumer....I have the right to get all the information necessary before making
> a purchase...and that includes....hard, physical evidence that the seller and
> their product is what they say it is...not just because they say so. If I go to
> a doctor I have the right to check out everything about him, before I accept his
> services or have him do surgery on me...the same goes for any service provided
> or product offered....But no...not here....Bill doesn't think he should have to
> provide evidence to his claims, and the only way he can provide evidence that he
> can successfully trade his methodology is his brokerage statement. No he can
> not promise or guarentee that the student will learn and be successful. George
> Angell sells his methodology and offers 60 day money back guarentee....If Bill's
> or any other scam artist...oh excuse me...vendor's product and or services had
> any merit, they would put their money where their mouth is...but guess
> what....he doesn't.... and keeps playing off the gullability of others. I will
> continue to warn people off of people like Bill E.
>
> We are the power,
>
> Mark Seflin
>
> Randall Kurzon wrote:
>
> > I want to clarify a couple of points that were in my earlier message that
> > may have been taken differently than their intended meaning. When I referred
> > to a guarantee I wasn't asking for nor even thinking of a guarantee that
> > Bill's manual would cause me or anyone else to be a profitable bond trader.
> > No one can promise this. I want a guarantee that the content is there. Any
> > one with just a little common sense will agree that $377.00 (plus shipping
> > etc.) is an AWFUL lot of money for a manual that you can not look at before
> > you buy it. I can look at almost any other trading related book in a
> > bookstore before I buy it. I can order from Trader's Press, Amazon.com,
> > Barnes and Noble, and others with the ability to return the book if it is
> > worthless to me. Why can't one have this same ability when ordering from Mr.
> > Eykyn? Because it's too much bother to him? Well now THAT pissed me off.
> >
> > I asked Mr. Eykyn to provide some sort of proof as to justify the cost of
> > his manual. That proof could have included but was not limited to account
> > statements (yes, there ARE people that do make them public! Honest people
> > that is), legitimate testimonials or anything else to justify such a price
> > for his manual. His reply basically said that he would provide nothing
> > except his word and that of someone I had never heard of. OK, I wasn't
> > expecting results from LBR saying she traded using Bill's manual, just
> > something from *somebody* that had all appearances of being legitimate. I
> > received a page of printed testimonials from Mr. Eykyn after the fact but
> > none of the testimonials had names, addresses, or phone numbers. If I were a
> > vendor offering a product for any price, large or small, I would certainly
> > plan to ask some of my most successful customers if they would provide a
> > testimonial showing that their success is related to my product and allow
> > people to contact them. Otherwise the vendor can write all the glowing
> > testimonials he wants. If no one was willing then I would then have to prove
> > the value some other way, possibly through my own account statements.
> >
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