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<DIV><FONT size=2>Re Strong Funds refusing to take my order. Looks like
they did</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>me a favor after today's action....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Humbly,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Charles</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Messaggio originale-----</B><BR><B>Da:
</B>charles meyer <<A
href="mailto:chmeyer@xxxxxxxx";>chmeyer@xxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>A:
</B>RealTraders Discussion Group <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Data:
</B>venerdì 19 marzo 1999 21.45<BR><B>Oggetto: </B>Re: LEGAL
RECOURSE<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Neal:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>There are enough rules to cover their ++%^&*(
every which way till</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Sunday. Like redeeming shares 'in kind' under
adverse market </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>conditions; or not redeeming them at all. This only
about the 4th</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>time I have gotton the shaft--each time it just feels a
little different.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks for your heads up. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Best wishes,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Charles</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original
Message-----</B><BR><B>From: </B>Neal Hughes <<A
href="mailto:neal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>neal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>To:
</B>RealTraders Discussion Group <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>Friday, March 19, 1999 2:49 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: LEGAL
RECOURSE<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>At 01:05 PM 3/19/99 -0600, charles meyer
wrote: <BR>>>>><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller><BR><?/smaller><?/fontfamily><?smaller>Group:<BR><?/smaller><BR><?smaller>I'm
a bit calmer now, especially after getting my message to the
portfolio<BR>manager at Strong Funds that he is not honorable and
cannot be trusted.<BR>I placed an order yesterday afternoon. Then,
after the market closed one<BR>of the supervisors called me back
this morning saying the portfolio manager<BR>would not accept my
order for frequent trading. Do I have any recorse ex-<BR>cept from
becoming irate and venting. Now, that is not a recourse
only<BR>venting--but I certainly feel better. I told them that Wall
Street was based<BR>on 'your word is your bond' and they should have
told me my money was<BR>restricted BEFORE I tried to trade and that
they were screwing with my<BR>money. Thanks for listening and
allowing me to vent.<BR><?/smaller><BR><?smaller>Charles <BR><?/smaller><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><<<<<BR><BR>Charles, is the
"frequent trading" rule a new rule implemented<BR>without
advising you AFTER you'd already given them your<BR>money? Or was it an
existing rule in place BEFORE you gave<BR>them your money? <BR><BR>If it
was an existing rule, and you didn't bother to<BR>understand the rules,
then the fund manager is not going<BR>to take much interest in what you
have to say.<BR><BR>Either way, you've learned another aspect of fund
trading!<BR><BR>-Neal.<BR><BR><BR>-----------------<BR>Neal on the
'net.<BR>Trade well. Train hard.<BR>http://www.halcyon.com/neal/
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Data: venerd́ 19 marzo 1999 1.30
Oggetto: Re: Path to success
>Hype for Marketplayer .com
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dick Webb <dickwebb711@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Date: Thursday, March 18, 1999 3:02 PM
>Subject: Path to success
>
>
>>(I have about 20 years experience with futures)
>>
>>For the past 3 years I have been in contact with PH D's that take
>>products from ideas to the sales floor. What is interesting to me is
>>the process and how it relates to what we do as traders. We buy or
>>develop a system or method. Then we go test it out (if possible) at
>>that time there is often the idea that historical testing on trade
>>station is all that is needed....but knowing what I know about drug
>>testing and development I suggest that there is more to this than that.
>>
>>Did you know that there is a drug that has been shown to have variable
>>degrees of effectiveness for treating anything. This substance has
>>been tested more than 80% of ALL the drugs out there combined. The
>>drug has no side effects and is cheaper than an aspirin. I would sell
>>it but the FDA won't let me. ...The name begins with a P and ends
>>with and o and works because of belief...
>>
>>Any way how this relates to us is that many traders do not take the
>>new system/method/drug ...oops strike drug... through a complete
>>test... they just implement. We give it to a broker with a few
>>thousand dollars and the broker doesn't die so it must be ok...if it
>>doesn't work out we can rationalize it somehow.
>>
>>Last year I did this with stocks for a while...only lost a grand or
>>two. Then made a fortune the rest of the year ....trading based upon a
>>solid technique that tells me which way the market is going. ...I made
>>a lot of dough in sept-oct and went long oct 9. ...you know the rest
>>of the story....just look at the SnP.
>>
>>This year as I was entering all those losing stock trades for taxes i
>>lived through the pain again. I decided to prevent that as best i
>>could. I opened an account at marketplayer.com and have been trading
>>stocks there..... Ok so i can't make a real nickel there but i can
>>develop the habits necessary to be a successful stock trader and that
>>is more important than taking risking 5-10k and trying again in stocks.
>>
>>The result so far has been wonderful I have successfully gone through
>>the "stuff" that real money managers need to go through...Setting up
>>and utilizing money management....this is so easy you wouldn't believe
>>it.
>>
>>Also I'm dealing with the emotional stuff of being bored with it. You
>>see trading is more interesting when your balance is going up....My
>>results stood at +3% profits for 2 weeks..the 3rd and 4th week..... A
>>friend reminded me that so far I was on track. Since i only used part
>>of my equity most of the time I was on track to making 60% to 120% a
>>year....in a very diversified portfolio. Also there is the temptation
>>to change the system along the way....I find myself looking at the
>>losers and saying what did they have in common so that I can eliminate
>>it or visa versa. ...Any way as we speak the marketplayer account is
>>up over 5% in a little over 5 weeks in a 20 stock portfolio. Now my
>>next area is to do a simulated account in futures.....Why??? I have 20
>>years trading experience and need an environment where I will develop
>>better habits.
>>
>>One of them is my relationship to my broker. When ever I have five or
>>more winning trades in a row he talks about how his customers loose
>>money....He'll bend over backwards for me but he is part of the
>>dis-functional environment. ...Here I go with the simulated account.
>>I am going to use the one at futures for $10 a month and $2 a round
>>turn I can do it real easy. Then i have found that there are firms
>>that use the same computerized interface to trade with that have
>>reasonable rates.
>>
>>
>>If you have some ideas you can give me to support my success please
>>let me know...
>>
>>What is my system?????...pattern based ...it gets about
>>4 trades a year per market traded. I can trade about 25 markets with
>>it ...4 trades per year.. Average trade lasts 3 weeks. ...Money
>>management here is important I am looking at a 100K theoretical
>>account that probably needs use up to 30K in margin at a time.
>>
>>My exits on trades is different from what i have used in the past. I
>>use a cyclical feature that says if profitable exit not made by a
>>certian date .. stay in till the next date (if loss is not taken). The
>>advantage of this model is phychological. If i look at a chart and say
>>to myself it goes up here get out there is uncertainty as to whether
>>or not it will make it to that price. However it will always make it
>>to my stop loss or profit date. (oh yes i do have an exit for quick
>>high profits)
>>
>>If you have any ideas that may support my road to success please share.
>>==
>>Big Lucky Dick
>>
>>_________________________________________________________
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>>
>>
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