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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From: 
    </B>petena9090@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:petena9090@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>petena9090@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
    </B>RealTraders Discussion Group &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
    </B>Saturday, March 13, 1999 10:28 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: Stocks: stops 
    mental or real<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>That is precisely the problem I have been 
    struggling with also.&nbsp; I am a Fidelity customer.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT size=2>I have a small account 
    at DLJDirect.&nbsp; They impose the same limitations.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>I have decided that with over the counter stocks I use 
    mental stops and mental targets.&nbsp; I prefer big board 
    stocks.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>When can place a stop loss order I move my stops a lot 
    when my trade item moves in the right direction, but...</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>For NASDAQ stocks it is nerve-wracking to watch like a 
    hawk for the move in the wrong direction.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>When there is a significant profitable move I often sell 
    half of the position (or cover half).&nbsp; If it is a really big 
    profit</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>I close out enough of it to have a break-even and let the 
    rest run.&nbsp; This is good only for the right moves,&nbsp; 
the</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>hawk has to be alert and take brutal action when it moves 
    the other way.&nbsp; Tolerate no more than 5% loss if</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>possible.</FONT></DIV>
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        <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>This is one of the problems facing 
        traders of equities.&nbsp;&nbsp; I wonder if some of the well informed 
        members of realtraders could comment on the relative merit of trading 
        futures verus equities in a short time frame.&nbsp; Take into account 
        average slippage,&nbsp; the ability/inability to use stops, comissions 
        and disregard contract size and other obvious factors and come to some 
        kind of objective conclusion as to which markets favor the small 
        speculator: purely from the standpoint of the &quot;cost of doing 
        business&quot;.&nbsp; I would include L2 trading in this analysis 
        too.&nbsp; Can anybody come up with a definite answer ?</FONT></DIV>
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Kevin -- be aware of the XTL colors, i.e., red for downtrend, blue for
uptrend and black for no trend.  Short entry setup should begin with your
observing a red bar;  use of XTL colors for alert and entry is fully
explained in the program's various documentation and the software demo.

With best regards,

Colin Johnston

At 01:50 AM 3/13/99 -0800, Kevin Shin wrote:
>I tried to short S&P today between 10-12 (Chicago time) on 5 min chart with
>GET RT.

Colin C. Johnston
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Carpe Diem ...