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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I'm as disgusted as anyone with
LeoWeb/Globex/CUBS/TOPS, but I will say that even though CUBS is down in the
spoo pit, my fills on the e-mini this morning have been faster than lightening.
I'm literally getting (excellent) fills back in less time than it takes me to
find and display the fills screen after I click on Confirm. When I say excellent
I mean that my limit orders are normally sent a full point below the current bid
(sell) or ask (buy) and I'm getting filled at the b/a or better.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Earl </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From:
</B>Ernest Cespedes <<A
href="mailto:demoman@xxxxxxxxxxx";>demoman@xxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>To:
</B>RealTraders Discussion Group <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>Friday, October 02, 1998 9:41 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: Globex Problem
(again?)<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Gary,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Now there's a message on the Special Notices screen with
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>LFG (FuturesOnline):</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>"The CUBS terminal at the CME is currently
down. Expect delays in</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> S&P500 fills. The EMini and Dow futures
are not affected"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Are you still up and able to place orders while we're
down? This is good</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>test to determine the differences between two
brokerages.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>-ernest</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original
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href="mailto:gmkramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>gmkramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>To:
</B>demoman@xxxxxxxxxxx <<A
href="mailto:demoman@xxxxxxxxxxx";>demoman@xxxxxxxxxxx</A>>;
RealTraders Discussion Group <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>Friday, October 02, 1998 7:41 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: Globex
Problem (again?)<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>As I have stated on this forum before,
Futures Online Sucks!!!! they advertise that the
system is the best thing since sliced bread and then when it doesnt
work, they blame the exchange!!! Check out PMB. I did
and am very happy.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Gary</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Gary,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Does this mean you have been getting executions while CUBS has
been down? If so, what is the backup system and how long from send to a)
execution and b) fill report? Thanks.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Earl</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From:
</B>Gary Kramer <<A
href="mailto:gmkramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>gmkramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>To:
</B>RealTraders Discussion Group <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>Friday, October 02, 1998 9:49 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: Globex Problem
(again?)<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>no problems at all</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original
Message-----</B><BR><B>From: </B>Ernest Cespedes <<A
href="mailto:demoman@xxxxxxxxxxx";>demoman@xxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>To:
</B>Gary Kramer <<A
href="mailto:gmkramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>gmkramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx</A>>;
RealTraders Discussion Group <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>Friday, October 02, 1998 10:38 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: Globex
Problem (again?)<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Gary,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Now there's a message on the Special Notices screen
with </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>LFG (FuturesOnline):</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>"The CUBS terminal at the CME is currently
down. Expect delays in</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> S&P500 fills. The EMini and Dow
futures are not affected"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Are you still up and able to place orders while we're
down? This is good</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>test to determine the differences between two
brokerages.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>-ernest</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original
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</B>demoman@xxxxxxxxxxx
<<A
href="mailto:demoman@xxxxxxxxxxx";>demoman@xxxxxxxxxxx</A>>;
RealTraders Discussion Group <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>Friday, October 02, 1998 7:41 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: Globex
Problem (again?)<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>As I have stated on this forum
before, Futures Online Sucks!!!! they advertise
that the system is the best thing since sliced bread and then when
it doesnt work, they blame the exchange!!! Check out
PMB. I did and am very happy.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Gary</FONT></DIV>
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I think that he did NOT follow the plan - as Mervin said, he got in too
late. The trade that makes sense at one level doesn't at another. I
agree on the stop and the flaky broker, and I have certainly gotten in
too late myself on more than one occasion.
My point is that EVERY price change can change the dynamics of EVERY
trade.
Nicl
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Dunn [SMTP:andy@xxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, October 02, 1998 1:00 PM
> To: RealTraders Discussion Group
> Subject: Re:Long term Capital
>
> Mervin wrote:
> >I remember that in April, 1996, I went long wheat. I got in too
> late:
> >in the middle of the move. In order to protect myself, I placed a
> stop
> >just
> >in case. It did fall--It gapped open on the next day. I stopped out
> at
> >518, the lowest point in the whole correction. My broker tried his
> best
> >to
> >persuade me to get back in. I didn't. Wheat went on to move to
> above
> >700.
> >I was devastated.
>
> Mervin,
> 1. you followed your plan
> 2. you placed a stop
> 3. you didn't listen to a flakey broker
>
> I consider this trade a success...perhaps not financially, but
> psychologically. You did 3 things well. If you had gotten back in on
> your broker's advice, I think you would of been far worse off.
>
> Andy
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