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<DIV><FONT size=2>I started daytrading Spoos full time about 2 months ago and am
going onto my third brokerage firm. Here are my comments:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>1st - futures Online was terrible!!! The CUBS unit was
always down, fill reporting was very slow, I never received confirmation that a
cancel/replace was done and got picked off. recommendation: Dont
trade through internet via Cubs if you are daytrading.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>2nd - saul Stone has very knowledgeable order
desk and fills were excellent. I opened the account with $25 K (their
minimum for Spoos) and after taking some cash out and suffering some losses, the
account was about $15K, still sufficient to day trade according to currrent
margin requirements. I got a call this past Monday about 1/2 hour before
the market opened telling me that an internal policy now required the account to
be at a $25K minimum per contract! I wired in funds that afternoon and the
next morning they did not show a record. Only after a couple of hours and
missed trading opportunities did they then show the wire in. Today the
account is being closed!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I am going to try PMB and their online
brokerage. It appears to be completely different from Cubs
exectution. As a standbuy, I am opening an account at First
American. They appear to have a top notch operation but I am inclined to
try out PMB first.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I will keep you all posted!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Gary</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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Yes their ads are wonderful.
I smell spam........so below is how the sytem works so all can save money and
the spam will stop...
Give them an easy test ....ask them to send you brokerage statements
that show at least 50% of the trades shown in the advertisement.
If you stand firm on that they will go away.
They use fib retracements and then tell you to trade only bonds on
the 3 big news days. Trades are made about 1/2 hour after the open and at the
close.
You can find out when unemployment, gdp etc is and do this your self.
If the retracement is near a fib level .38 .618, 50 etc then take the trade
only at the close or 1/2 hour after the market is open.
They will give you lots of refrences and these people will slip up and give
you the components of the system.
If Steve Cox acts like a SOB on the phone ...he is in a good mood that day
usually he just hangs up.
Happy spaming
Mitch
owner-realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> They teach Fibonacci retracements for about $2K.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rob [SMTP:sp500@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 1998 6:09 PM
> > To: RealTraders Discussion Group
> > Subject: Natural Order Educators
> >
> > Does anyone have any feedback on "Natural Order Educators".
> >
> > They have a GREAT full page ad in Futures magazine (September issue)
> >
> > They claim to be able to pick tops and bottoms with great accuracy.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Rob
Mitch Ryder
Ynos@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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