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<DIV><FONT face="Arial MT Black">From: Bill Shumake</FONT></DIV>
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bshumake@xxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial MT Black">I am interested to know of the experiences any 
RTs may have had using the ZAP and/or LFG to trade the S&amp;P.&nbsp; I am 
curious if the claims of having orders in the hands of the floor brokers via 
Cubs units in 2 to 3 seconds is accurate, also any problems that might have been 
encountered.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial MT Black">Thanks!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial MT Black">Bill Shumake</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Dont waste your time!!!&nbsp; Fills suck, 
execution sucks, CUBS is always down.&nbsp; I tried it for 1.5 weeks and closed 
my account.&nbsp; You will be sorry if you try it!!!</FONT></DIV>
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    </B>Thursday, September 17, 1998 1:33 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>ZAP, LFG, TOPS, 
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    <DIV><FONT face="Arial MT Black">From: Bill Shumake</FONT></DIV>
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    face="Arial MT Black">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
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    <DIV><FONT face="Arial MT Black"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="Arial MT Black">I am interested to know of the experiences 
    any RTs may have had using the ZAP and/or LFG to trade the S&amp;P.&nbsp; I 
    am curious if the claims of having orders in the hands of the floor brokers 
    via Cubs units in 2 to 3 seconds is accurate, also any problems that might 
    have been encountered.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="Arial MT Black"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="Arial MT Black">Thanks!</FONT></DIV>
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Hi John:
Can you tell me if the Rydex Ursa Fund is tradeable in an IRA?
Thanks,
Randy Murphree

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From: John Cappello <jvc689@xxxxxxx>
To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: MUTUAL FUNDS-Rydex
Date: Thursday, September 17, 1998 11:35 AM

Several of you asked about this.Rydex phone # 800-820-0888.

Mutual Fund switching done with Rydex by Smartimer.

http://www.smartimer.com

Their Jan. '98 summary is excellent and I personally find it good enough
for my wife's IRA.

Regards,

John



------------------ Reply Separator --------------------
Originally From: John Cappello <jvc689@xxxxxxx>
Subject: MUTUAL FUNDS
Date: 09/17/1998 08:06am


Dear Steve,

Rydex has a switch fund that is managed that has averaged 49% per year for
the last 4 years.It has done just as well hypothetically for 6 to 8 prior
years.

John



------------------ Reply Separator --------------------
Originally From: "Steven C. Walker" <Steve@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: MUTUAL FUNDS
Date: 09/17/1998 06:57am




RTers,

Looking for a mutual fund that profits when the market goes down.  I
recall that Rydex has at least one.  I seem to recall some mention of one
that profits more than 1:1.. has a high beta.  Any help?