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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>EXCELLENT POINT, Alex.&nbsp; I mentioned this in 
a previous post, and it could probably stand being reinforced on every options 
post!&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT size=2>1)&nbsp; Most beginning 
options traders don't even imagine the VERY real possibility of being exercised 
early, and what that means to their account.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>2)&nbsp; If (more realistically, WHEN) this happens... if 
there hasn't already been a conversation with the brokerage about this as a 
possibility, the broker may liquidate whatever necessary to cover his ass (which 
is, of course, understandable and necessary.)&nbsp; Often times there are better 
solutions, including giving discretionary power to your broker to unwind the 
position at his best-efforts.&nbsp; Since brokers only make money if you stay as 
their clients and profit, they are most likely to do their best to guide your 
position through intraday swings to the best possible outcome (I've had this 
happen to me, at great surprise, and fortunately at a good outcome.&nbsp; THIS 
is when you're REALLY grateful you use a full-service options broker, and not 
the internet.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>3)&nbsp; it's equally important to note that you can be 
exercised early EVEN IF YOU ARE LONG!!!&nbsp; All that is required is that you 
are In-The-Money, At-The-Money, or even near At-The-Money.&nbsp; The deeper ITM 
you are, the higher the probability of exercise EARLIER in expiration week (or 
even, technically, earlier!)&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>How do I know?&nbsp; It's happened to me!&nbsp; What this 
means is that you can be secure and confident because you're not short anything, 
and all your long positions are ITM, so you've got &quot;locked in&quot; 
intrinsic value (I feel good again just thinking about it!)&nbsp;&nbsp; All of a 
sudden, you get a call from your broker, with a somewhat urgent, panicky tone, 
telling you that your options were exercised on you, your account just got hit 
for a bazillion dollars, and you are involuntarily LONG &quot;X&quot; number of 
share of stock!... Then he'll ask;&nbsp; &quot;So, what do you want to do 
now?&quot;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Of course, this specific situation is easily remedied by 
liquidating the stock, hopefully on an intraday rally... and other than the 
initial shock, it's not a big deal (other than possibly taking an extra round 
trip of commissions.)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The point here;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Plan and prepare for even the most bizarre and expect the 
unexpected!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Big Profits to you,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT size=2>Dave Donhoff</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From: 
    </B>THE DOCTOR &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:droex@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>droex@xxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: </B><A 
    href="mailto:deltaforce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>deltaforce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:deltaforce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>deltaforce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Cc: 
    </B>RealTraders Discussion Group &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
    </B>Thursday, August 27, 1998 7:41 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: LCOS Bull-Debit 
    Spread answers<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>One other IMPORTANT issue.&nbsp; Have a 
    plan for what you will do if the short call gets early exercised and there 
    is still time premium in the long option.&nbsp; If you exercise the long 
    option to deliver you throw premium away!&nbsp; You may not care but it 
    might help to know in advance your brokerage houses policy on what is called 
    &quot;same day substitution&quot;. 
    <P>David Donhoff wrote: 
    <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE = CITE>&nbsp;<FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=+0>OK, 
        William...&nbsp; I'm going to answer your questions embedded in the text 
        below.&nbsp; Hope you and everyone can read it OK.... I'm doing it in 
        blue to make it stand out from the existing text.;</FONT></FONT><FONT 
        size=+0>&gt;Dave,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=+0>&gt;Thank you for your expert 
        advice and willingness to help.<FONT color=#000000>&nbsp; </FONT>Here is 
        a trade I would like your opinion on.&nbsp; Two days ago, I have 
        just<FONT color=#000000> </FONT>started a debit bull calendar spread 
        (Did I name this spread right?) on LCOS.</FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
        size=+0>Yes... technically you are correct in naming the position... 
        however what you are REALLY doing is better explained as a SYNTHETIC 
        COVERED CALL, or COVERED LEAP CALL.&nbsp; For many new options traders, 
        this will make it much easier to mentally grasp.&nbsp; You've created a 
        position with a fixed and limited upside (profit) and an unlimited 
        downside (risk/loss).&nbsp; Read on...</FONT></FONT> <FONT size=+0>I 
        have a bias as to its increasing in price in the near future due to 
        its<FONT color=#000000> </FONT>recent stock split announcement.&nbsp; 
        The stock was trading at around $60 before<FONT color=#000000> 
        </FONT>the announcement, and up to $100 intraday during the 
        announcement.&nbsp; It has<FONT color=#000000> </FONT>dropped down to 
        $65 last month.&nbsp; Today, LCOS closed at $77.625.&nbsp; The 
        split<FONT color=#000000> </FONT>will be reflected on 8/26.</FONT> 
        <P><FONT size=+0>My stragegy was to make use of time decay Theta.&nbsp; 
        The trade was as follows:</FONT> <BR><FONT size=+0>Long a Leap call 
        option Jan99 @ $50 strike price for $28.50 when the stock<FONT 
        color=#000000> </FONT>price was $72 two days ago.&nbsp; So the time 
        premium was $6.50 for 5 months.</FONT> <FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
        size=+0>OK, so you went long a deep ITM strike option (50 strike when 
        LCOS was at 77-80), thereby having a very high Delta... probably well 
        over 95 (percent correlation to the underlying asset's price), and also 
        a very low Theta (rate of time decay).&nbsp; You've effectively bought a 
        proxy of the LCOS stock at a fraction of it's actual price.&nbsp; Good 
        job IF you want to be same as long the stock.</FONT></FONT>&nbsp; 
        <BR><FONT size=+0>At the same time, short a call option Sep98 @80 strike 
        price for $5.625.&nbsp; The<FONT color=#000000> </FONT>idea was to take 
        advantage of the high volatility and premium of the Sept @80<FONT 
        color=#000000> </FONT>call.&nbsp;&nbsp; So my net debit was $22.875 plus 
        commissions.</FONT> <FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=+0>OK, so now you've 
        sold a call virtually At-The-Money, thereby having close to a 50 Delta 
        (a 1/2 correlation in price movement to the underlying asset... moves 
        half as fast up or down in price, compared to LCOS stock (and your 
        LEAP), at this stage), and just about the most significant rate of Theta 
        (time decay) you can get in this position.&nbsp; You've sold the option 
        with expiration in the closest available date, which is one of my 
        cardinal laws (broken only in very rare occasions.)&nbsp; If the stock 
        stays in a pretty close range, your short call will continue to have a 
        healthy daily rate of decay (Theta.)&nbsp; If LCOS climbs, your short 
        option will be going deeper ITM, and will begin to accumulate INTRINSIC 
        premium value (cash-exercisable value) which obviously won't decay 
        through time.&nbsp; The higher LCOS climbs, the less your covered-call 
        spread will be able to make, until it ultimately reaches the 
        predetermined maximum, as you've calculated below.</FONT></FONT>&nbsp; 
        <FONT size=+0>Possible outcome of the trade:</FONT> <BR><FONT 
        size=+0>&gt;(a) If the stock goes above $80 before expiration and I get 
        called out, I will</FONT> <BR><FONT size=+0>&gt;in effect get $80 - $50 
        for my $22.875 investment, = a return of 31% for one</FONT> <BR><FONT 
        size=+0>&gt;month.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=+0>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT 
        size=+0>&gt;(b) Or I may buy the Sep $80 call back one day before 
        expiration for the</FONT> <BR><FONT size=+0>&gt;amount being 
        in-the-money, and write a new Oct slightly out of the money call</FONT> 
        <BR><FONT size=+0>&gt;or slightly in-the-money call for an additional $2 
        to $4 time premium for the</FONT> <BR><FONT size=+0>&gt;next 
        month.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=+0>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=+0>&gt;(c) Or 
        if the chart shows the stock may be declining, I shall write an 
        in-the-</FONT> <BR><FONT size=+0>&gt;money call.</FONT><FONT 
        color=#0000ff><FONT size=+0>Yes... this WOULD BE the &quot;plan&quot;... 
        however I urge extreme caution as you may have noticed the old saying 
        that &quot;The markets warily climb the long wall-of-worry, and quickly 
        slide down the slippery-slope-of-hope.&quot;</FONT></FONT> <FONT 
        color=#0000ff><FONT size=+0>Most traders find it very difficult to keep 
        their flesh attached when the sharks start attacking the 
        bid-ask-spreads, and we want to make adjustments in the heat of a 
        decline.&nbsp; There are ways to place limit orders using 
        &quot;contingent on&quot; orders that will replace your fading short 
        call with a deeper ITM short call in the case of a collapse.... but 
        you'll still be subject to the mercy of the traders in the pits (who are 
        salivating as they read this!)</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT 
        size=+0>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=+0>&gt;(d) If the Sept $80 call 
        expires worthless by Sept 21, I can sell the Jan99</FONT> <BR><FONT 
        size=+0>&gt;$50 call if there is good profit.</FONT><FONT 
        color=#0000ff><FONT size=+0>Since you established your spread (locked 
        your profit parameters) and went long the J99 50 Call LEAP when LCOS was 
        at 77... your short could only expire worthless with LCOS less than 
        80... and after minimal Theta decay on your LEAP, in order for it (the 
        LEAP) to be profitable, LCOS would almost certainly have to be above 
        78-79... a pretty small target to hit, wouldn't you say?</FONT></FONT> 
        <FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=+0>If you're going to want to liquidate 
        your LEAP at a profit, you're probably going to need to have an upward 
        thrust above 80 to do so (because options that far forward, and that far 
        ITM are very sparsely traded... so the floor will tend to widen the 
        Bid-Ask spread, cutting sharply into your returns)... which puts you 
        back in the boat of just simply being long the stock (or it's proxy 
        equivalent) without any hedging.&nbsp; Not bad if you're confident in 
        LCOS... but hardly strategically covered.</FONT></FONT><FONT 
        size=+0>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=+0>&gt;(e) Or I can write an Oct call 
        and collect the premium at about $2 to $4 per</FONT> <BR><FONT 
        size=+0>&gt;month in time premium (hopefully, unless the stock price 
        drops significantly).</FONT> <BR><FONT size=+0>&gt;I shall repeat the 
        process montly until Jan99.&nbsp; Then sell the Jan99 50 call</FONT> 
        <BR><FONT size=+0>&gt;which should (I hope) still be deep in the money 
        at that time.</FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=+0>Regardless of the 
        woes the Dow or the S&amp;P may see in the next few weeks or months... 
        I'd have a hard time betting against the growth in the internet 
        sector... so in the long run, you're probably not in bad shape at all to 
        be long LCOS.&nbsp; One thing about holding long options though... 
        another of my &quot;cardinal laws&quot; is to sell or roll-forward (sell 
        and buy as a spread) any long positions 30-60 days before expiration, to 
        avoid an accelerating Theta (time decay.)&nbsp; In the case of LEAPS as 
        you are using them, I'd probably stretch that law to 3-4 months before 
        expiration.</FONT></FONT><FONT size=+0>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT 
        size=+0>&gt;(f) I would lose money if by Jan99 the stock drops to below 
        $50 + my net debit</FONT> <BR><FONT size=+0>&gt;less the monthly time 
        premium I collect every month, which loss is possible</FONT> <BR><FONT 
        size=+0>&gt;due to the volatility of the internet market.&nbsp; 
        Right?&nbsp; But I don't know how to</FONT> <BR><FONT 
        size=+0>&gt;evaluate that.</FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
        size=+0>Forget the &quot;by Jan99&quot; business... in this trade, 
        whenever LCOS drops to have your spread re-sellable for less than you 
        paid for it, YOU ARE LOSING!!!&nbsp; Covered Calls are NOT for schizoid 
        markets!!!&nbsp; If this baby dumps and you're not prepared... your 
        trade goes right along with it.</FONT></FONT> <FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
        size=+0>EOD closing print today on LCOS is 34 1/4, post-split.&nbsp; 
        That's 68 1/2 pre-split.&nbsp; I'm afraid to say it, but I'd predict 
        your spread is already in the red.</FONT></FONT> <FONT 
        color=#0000ff><FONT size=+0>Again, I don't think it's bad over the long 
        run... but you've got to take some quick defensive action!</FONT></FONT> 
        <FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=+0>What you actually do is, of course, 
        going to be up to you... and you will be the one who profits, or suffers 
        the consequences...&nbsp; below are a few things to consider, but I 
        can't make any recommendations AT ALL because I'm at a bit of a loss to 
        the specifics of LCOS history, news, and temperament... and I'm not 
        sitting in YOUR gut/mind.</FONT></FONT> <FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
        size=+0>Some of your options;</FONT></FONT><FONT color=#000000><FONT 
        size=+0>If you think LCOS may dive a little or a lot, but ultimately 
        come back up;</FONT></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=+0>Buy deep 
        ITM puts, 3-4 months forward.&nbsp; These will equilize some of your 
        Delta, and cover your risk in a short-term downslide.&nbsp; Use these as 
        covers on a &quot;scalping&quot; basis... i.e. keep them on only until 
        you see an &quot;all clear&quot; signal that the markets have clamed 
        down, and start marching up again.</FONT></FONT> <FONT 
        color=#000000><FONT size=+0>If you think LCOS is going to dump fairly 
        quickly in the short-term;</FONT></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
        size=+0>Buy back in your short 80's (now 40's) and sell ITM Sep calls 
        (maybe 35, and/or 32 1/2).</FONT></FONT> <FONT size=+0>If you think LCOS 
        is going to H&amp;LL in a hand-basket... and THEN coming 
        back;</FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=+0>Buy back in your short 
        80's (now 40's) and sell DEEP ITM Sep calls (maybe 30, and/or 25).&nbsp; 
        Stay ready to buy them back in when the dump stops... and you better be 
        quick about it!&nbsp; The &quot;dead cat bounces&quot; don't tend to 
        hang around for the sleepy!</FONT></FONT><FONT size=+0>&gt;</FONT> 
        <BR><FONT size=+0>&gt;I don't know what other exit stragegies I should 
        look at.</FONT><FONT size=+0>&gt;And if the stock does go above $80, 
        should I choose (a) or (b)?</FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
        size=+0>That's another entire letter.... but for now, let's look at the 
        fact that you've established a basic spread with a maximized, limited 
        possible profit.&nbsp; You know how to place an order that reverses your 
        spread, and you know at what upside price LCOS offers you no more 
        profit... so place a contingent order to reverse the spread at market 
        when LCOS is at or above that price.</FONT></FONT> <FONT 
        color=#0000ff><FONT size=+0>You know that as LCOS dumps, so does your 
        kid's college funds... so look at your charts (stocks or astrology or 
        marine topography... whatever works for you), look even HARDER at how 
        strong your guts are for losses... and decide at what print downward 
        LCOS has just dug the grave too deep.&nbsp; Place another contingent 
        order to bail out at market (the wolves are howling) when LCOS is at or 
        below that price.</FONT></FONT> <FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=+0>Make 
        the two orders OCO (one-cancels-the-other) so your broker doesn't have 
        to freak about accidentally getting filled both ways (don't worry, on 
        THIS trade it wouldn't happen... period!)</FONT></FONT> <FONT 
        size=+0>&gt;Would this strategy work better on OEX, SPY (what 
        else)?</FONT> <BR><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=+0>Hooyyy.... that is a 
        BIG question.&nbsp; We'll save it for another time, 
        OK.</FONT></FONT><FONT size=+0>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=+0>&gt;Would 
        this strategy work on a declining market?&nbsp; A tradig 
        range?</FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=+0>This strategy will work 
        best in a steady, ranging market, OR a slowly climbing market.&nbsp; If 
        you're a market &quot;timer&quot; and you nail the beginning of a slowly 
        climbing bull JUST AFTER a sharp decline, you'll REALLY rack up the 
        profits.</FONT></FONT><FONT size=+0>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT 
        size=+0>&gt;Thank you very much.&nbsp; Sincerely,</FONT> <BR><FONT 
        size=+0>&gt;William W</FONT> <FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=+0>My 
        pleasure... and I hope it helps.</FONT></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
        size=+0>Big Profits to you,</FONT></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
        size=+0>Dave 
Donhoff</FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Who says the calls have been bought.....?? What if someone wrote a whole
bundle for the premium? Believing that they would be likely to keep the
premium..!<g>
-----Original Message-----
From: JW <abprosys@xxxxxxx>
To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 28 August 1998 05:44
Subject: OEX P/C


>This looks interesting:
>
>S&P 100 Index-(OEX,OEW,OEY)
>OEX CALL VOLUME: 140725 OEX CALL OPEN INTEREST: 177233
>OEX PUT VOLUME: 92299 OEX PUT OPEN INTEREST: 224078
>OEX TOTAL VOLUME: 233024 OEX TOTAL OPEN INTEREST: 401311
>OEX LEVELS HIGH: 536.79 LOW: 512.74 CLOSE: 515.81 -20.98
>
>Why would so many more calls than puts be brought in a market like today's?
>Some believe we are bottoming?
>
>JW
>abprosys@xxxxxxx <mailto:abprosys@xxxxxxx>
>
>