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Re: Daytrading:Todd Mitchell



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I beg to differ with you.  Give me any system and with an excellent money
management system you will make money.  I have worked with systems that have an
accuracy rate of less the 25% and still been able to make money with them.  That
is not as good as just throwing a dart.  You can make money by throwing a dart and
flipping a coin, if you understand what you are doing and what the system is
designed to do.  Every time you make a trade the odds are 1 in three. Not very
good.  All any system does is increase the probability of a successful trade, it
doesn't change  the odds.  I discussed a system with the manager of a fund that
made 14% per year.  That meant that he had to make better then  a 27% return to
cover his costs and fees in order to pay 14%.  I asked him what his accuracy rate
was and he said that it was less then 37%. It is not only the system, it is the
trader using the system. I am no genius, I have had my own disasters, and there
are probably much better traders out there then I am. The fact remains there is no
fool proof system, mechanical or otherwise.

GREHERT@xxxxxxx wrote:

> In a message dated 98-08-27 07:12:22 EDT, Proffittak@xxxxxxx writes:
>
> << Every system works >>
>
> I disagree completely.  There's a false impression that following your system
> is more important than the system itself.  This is ridiculous.  It's extremely
> important to mechanically follow your system - granted......But its more
> important to have a profitable system.  Most poorly designed systems trading
> mechanically on "near random data" will break even before transaction costs.
> Transaction cost will cause most poorly designed systems to lose money.
>
> So what's the answer?  What's a NON-poorly designed system?  What's a
> profitable system?
>
> It is a system with "an edge".  A system that takes advantage of some
> inefficiency in the market.  A system that profits from the psychological
> extremes of market participants.
>
> Let's stop professing that "every system works" and only the trader is at
> fault.  If you lose money with a mechanical system, it may not be you.  The
> system may suck!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jerry Rehert
> August 27th, @ 07:09 pm
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