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Hello all,

Couldn't resist. <g> Here's a system utilizing W.Dates and Swing
highs and lows. Protective stops set at high or low of swing.
trades exited on a trailing profit stop after 300.00 in profit, and
risking 38% of profit. "Bouncing Ticks" set to 50% of bar.

The system didn't do as well if you tried for more, but after looking
at some of the trades on a chart, within a trend filter, I swear I think
you could just about trade this if you filtered to trade only with the
trend.

Walt

W.Dates  T. BONDS 67/99-Daily   08/22/77 - 07/31/96    
 Performance Summary:  All Trades   
Total net profit $  46375.00 Open position P/L $      0.00
Gross profit     $ 119031.25 Gross loss       $ -72656.25
Total # of trades      315 Percent profitable       66%
Number winning trades      209 Number losing trades      106
Largest winning trade $   2500.00 Largest losing trade $  -3687.50
Average winning trade $    569.53 Average losing trade $   -685.44
Ratio avg win/avg loss        0.83 Avg trade(win & loss) $    147.22
Max consec. winners       18 Max consec. losers        4
Avg # bars in winners        1 Avg # bars in losers        1
Max intraday drawdown $  -7062.50   
Profit factor           1.64 Max # contracts held        1
Account size required $   7062.50 Return on account      657%

 Performance Summary:  Long Trades   
Total net profit $  19562.50 Open position P/L $      0.00
Gross profit     $  46437.50 Gross loss       $ -26875.00
Total # of trades      128 Percent profitable       65%
Number winning trades       83 Number losing trades       45
Largest winning trade $   2031.25 Largest losing trade $  -1625.00
Average winning trade $    559.49 Average losing trade $   -597.22
Ratio avg win/avg loss        0.94 Avg trade(win & loss) $    152.83
Max consec. winners       11 Max consec. losers        5
Avg # bars in winners        1 Avg # bars in losers        1
Max intraday drawdown $  -4562.50   
Profit factor           1.73 Max # contracts held        1
Account size required $   4562.50 Return on account      429%

 Performance Summary:  Short Trades   
Total net profit $  26812.50 Open position P/L $      0.00
Gross profit     $  72593.75 Gross loss       $ -45781.25
Total # of trades      187 Percent profitable       67%
Number winning trades      126 Number losing trades       61
Largest winning trade $   2500.00 Largest losing trade $  -3687.50
Average winning trade $    576.14 Average losing trade $   -750.51
Ratio avg win/avg loss        0.77 Avg trade(win & loss) $    143.38
Max consec. winners       14 Max consec. losers        3
Avg # bars in winners        1 Avg # bars in losers        1
Max intraday drawdown $  -7250.00   
Profit factor           1.59 Max # contracts held        1
Account size required $   7250.00 Return on account      370%


-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Sears <asears@xxxxxxxx>
To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, July 15, 1998 2:46 PM
Subject: RE:fdates


>I am re-sending this as I never saw it posted and a lot of people
>are asking the same question
>
>>
>>What in the heck are WDates???
>>
>
>
>Wow, I have opened a can of worms here !
>
>My post was simply meant as a lighthearted parody of fdates :)
>
>My "extremely accurate" W-dates are simply Wednesday-dates
>as noted in my initial message, the blue bars on the chart are
>simply Wednsdays !  No secret, no membership required to get
>these highly accurate turning points. Although for those interested
>I could setup a subscription based service where I would email
>everyone Tuesday to advise them in advance that the following
>day was a W-Date  <G>  ie: Wednesday  :)
>
>Using the exact rules of +/- 1 bar and the high / low not being violated
>for 3 days following (Same as Fdate rules).  Wednesday has a hit
>rate of 80% or better !
>Did I pick Wednesday at random ?  NO
>I ran tests on 20 years of historical data for many markets to arrive
>at this conclusion.  Monday & Friday had a hit rate of 50-60%
>and Wednesday was consistently above 80% for all markets
>tested.
>Why did I do this ?  To prove to myself and others that methods
>such as fdates are no better than random.
>Did I prove this ?  I think so, who would have guessed that
>using Wednesday as a pivot date using fdate rules would
>give equal or better results ?  :-)
>
>What I did was setup a spreadsheet to identify ALL pivots
>that met fdates rules.  Example: there may have been 3000
>pivots in a data file which met this criteria, 80% of these occured
>on  Wednesday +/- 1 bar.  I found the results to be statistically
>significant.
>Previous examples of Bean Oil & Sp500 proved my findings
>Attached is a chart of cocoa showing the same amazing
>accuracy !       
>
>
>
>